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Re: [ietf-dkim] Moving on to ADSP - was RE: Handlingthe errataafter the consensus call

2009-03-11 15:12:02


-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-dkim-bounces(_at_)mipassoc(_dot_)org [mailto:ietf-dkim-
bounces(_at_)mipassoc(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of Douglas Otis
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 2:13 PM
To: dcrocker(_at_)bbiw(_dot_)net
Cc: ietf-dkim(_at_)mipassoc(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] Moving on to ADSP - was RE: Handlingthe
errataafter the consensus call


On Mar 11, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Dave CROCKER wrote:

Isn't it much simpler, and entirely sufficient, to have ADSP use
SDID (d=)?

I am not understanding the downside to the choice.

The alternatives all seem significantly more complicated and
probably problematic.

100% agreed. : ^)

Depending upon the interpretation given for Section 3.2 of ADSP, any
valid DKIM signature from the Author Domain may omit ADSP record
transactions.

The only logic for requiring either a DKIM signature that lacks an i=
value, or one that matches against the From header, would be there is
something special about a DKIM signature that lacks the i= value.
There does not appear to be any rational semantics to explain what is
implied when the i= value is missing.  On that point, Dave is correct.


You are incorrect Doug. Look at RFC4871:

If the DKIM-Signature header field does not contain the "i=" tag, the
   verifier MUST behave as though the value of that tag were "@d", where
   "d" is the value from the "d=" tag.

There is nothing special about a DKIM signature missing an i= filed. One
simply uses the d= field. Seems pretty straight forward to me.


Since the ADSP draft is already internally in conflict on this point,
a simple solution would be to drop the i= value requirement in ADSP.


I see no conflict.

If the DKIM i= value becomes defined as always being opaque, then ADSP
will need to define some other tag to introduce a non-opaque namespace
if DKIM is to be seen a method to affirm an email-address.   Defining
i= values as always being opaque is not really needed.  After all, a
valid signature does indicate the entity applying the signature is
acting on behalf of the owners of the email-address namespace.


<SNIP>


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