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Re: [ietf-dkim] Moving to consensus on draft-ietf-dkim-rfc4871-errata

2009-03-20 16:36:05
Thanks, all, for the clarification. I read too quickly and missed the semantic 
distinction between "IETF consensus" was and "IETF working group consensus".

Ellen

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From: ietf-dkim-bounces(_at_)mipassoc(_dot_)org [mailto:ietf-dkim-
bounces(_at_)mipassoc(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of SM
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 2:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] Moving to consensus on draft-ietf-dkim-rfc4871-
errata

At 09:41 20-03-2009, Siegel, Ellen wrote:
OK, now I'm confused. Can someone define IETF rough consensus? The errata
had
a 2/3 majority after the last round of discussion... does the IETF
ever get a better
consensus than that?

The Standards Process requires that a proposed standard be reviewed
by the IETF community to establish whether it has the
consensus.  This Working Group, for example, is only a subset of the
IETF community.  The Working Group can be used to to determine
whether it is worth asking the IETF community to review a
proposal.  However, it cannot act as a substitute for the IETF community.

There isn't a formal definition of "IETF rough consensus".  From the Tao:

   "a simple version is that it means that strongly held objections
must be debated
    until most people are satisfied that these objections are wrong"

Regards,
-sm

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