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Re: [ietf-dkim] Consensus point on ADSP

2009-04-01 05:23:50
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:30:33 +0100, Jim Fenton <fenton(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com> 
wrote:


So where is your problem?


My problem is that the semantics of the signature that the mailing list
applies shouldn't depend on whether the original author happens to be in
the same domain as the list.

BUT IT DOESN'T!

I am perpetually amazed that people on this list still seem to have no  
idea of how ADSP is supposed to work. They seem to think that the ADSP  
record is somehow related to the domain in the d= of the signature. IT  
ISN'T!

It is primarily related to the domain in the From: header.

The existence of an ADSP record states that "If you see this domain in the  
From: header of any email, you should expect to see also a valid signature  
with this same domain in its d= (and maybe we also invite you to discard  
it if such a signature is absent)".

So if a particular mail happens to have foo.example in its From: header,  
and has also been forwarded to a list by that same domain, then WHO CARES  
whether the signature was put there by the mailing list expander, or by  
the normal signing machine for that domain (maybe it had even acquired two  
signatures, one from each and both using the same key)? IT DOESN'T MATTER,  
since it is amply proved to be a genuine message vouched for by that  
domain.

Whether smart Assessors or smart humans choose to look at any i= that may  
be present and may indicate whether the actual signature was put there by  
the mail-list machinery or not is a minor secondary issue. Again, WHO  
REALLY CARES?

So I still don't see that you have raised an actual problem.

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