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Re: How mailing lists really work in 2004

2004-12-06 18:48:55

Yahoogroups runs more lists than anyone else in the world, ...

Not exactly. If we have a central system doing it under control of one
company (that happens to be participating in this forum), they can very
quickly adapt new technology and sign mail lists if necessary.

Sigh.  The ability of people on this list to miss my point over and over
again is really disheartening.  I don't usually have this much trouble
making simple points that seem obvious to me.  I see no reason that Yahoo
would want to change their software.  If you want your signatures to pass
through list software, IIM has to deal with what Yahoogroups does, not the
other way around.

This is very different for large base of installed mailman and majordomo
lists which have very large volume ...

Indeed.  I don't use mailman here, but I do use majordomo2 and I know that
it does many of the same mutation tricks that Yahoo does, including
various MIME and html transformations.  IIM has to adapt to mj2, also.

It's like people here are stuck in a time warp.  If it were 1998, and most
mail was plain text, and most list managers were listproc and listserv,
then it might be possible to invent signatures that could pass through
that era's plain text list software.

But the march of time has continued.  What Yahoo does is now typical.
Deal with it.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl(_at_)iecc(_dot_)com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet 
for Dummies",
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl, Mayor
"I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly.


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