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[sieve] IPR Disclosures on draft-ietf-sieve-include and draft-ietf-sieve-notify-sip-message

2011-12-15 15:29:27
Folks,

As you have seen by now, the IETF has received 2 IPR disclosures, one regarding draft-ietf-sieve-convert and the other involving draft-ietf-sieve-notify-sip-message.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1657/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1658/


Unfortunately, we have been told that Qian Sun, one of the co-authors of the document, is the author of the patent in question, filed back in 2008, and that he failed to disclose this at the time. I think this was pretty clearly a violation of RFC 3979, and the IESG will take up the question of what, if any, appropriate measures need to be taken because of that. Qian Sun is apparently no longer an active IETF participant, and his co-workers who are active IETF participants asked their company to disclose against the two documents as soon as they discovered what had happened. That's where were are now.

However, I did want to bring this to the attention of the working group and ask about the following:

Both of these drafts are already approved and in the RFC Editor queue. Right now, the RFC Editor has been asked to hold off publication for the moment until we decide the next steps. We could treat the IPR disclosures just as we would for any already published RFC (that is, we can simply say that it is out of our hands). However, since publication has not occurred, we can ask the RFC Editor to return the documents to the WG for further review, which as far as I can tell the RFC Editor always agrees to do. So, I ask that you all review the disclosures and ask the following question to the group:

After having reviewed the disclosures, does anyone in the WG wish to discuss the impact of these disclosures on the decision to publish these documents as they are? If so, I will likely ask the chairs to run a WGLC on the documents, and then I will run a new IETF Last Call with a pointer to the IPR disclosures. On the other hand, if there is *strong* consensus now on the list that it is fine go forward as-is, I will consider the matter settled and tell the RFC Editor to continue processing.

Please let us know what you think.

pr

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