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2004-08-16 18:27:56

Meng Weng Wong wrote:

 [about %{t} timestamps]
it's not meant to be human readable; it's meant to give a
hint to the explanation CGI.

Okay, it's for explanations by URL, that makes sense.  Maybe
mention it in an example.  I'd still prefer the format...

| The syntax is: YYYYMMDDhhmmssZ
| Example: 19990609001326.34352Z

...as in RfC 3161, but if you're sure that the CGI knows all
about 20380119031407Z (RfC 2626), the timestamps should work.

I'll look into the new ABNF of protocol-01 later.  In the new
SUBMITTER-03 bounces can still go to an unchecked MAIL FROM,
so that's not yet in a state where I could consider it to be
"compatible" with SPF classic.

PRA-00 is almost the same algorithm as before, so it does not
yet handle the common "missing Sender:" case.  The "MAY" in
2476 8.1 still exists in draft-gellens-submit-bis-00.txt 

The PRA algorithm without a solution for the "missing Sender:"
problem on the side of the PRA-aware recipient won't work.

Mail providers can't publish a SPF2.0/PRA sender policy, if
this doesn't work with legacy MUAs + 3rd party "MAYbe not" MSAs
of their users.

SYMPA lists:  They have an Errors-To: matching the Return-Path:
But a special Errors-To: PRA-step for SYMPA makes no sense, a
general "missing Sender: derived from Return-Path:" PRA-step
would work for everybody.
                         Bye, Frank



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