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At 3:15 pm -0800 11/24/97, David Sternlight wrote:
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Of course, Security Area folks don't have the depth of knowledge tat
David has been exhibiting on the Net for quite a while (:-).
Your gratuitous slam comes with ill grace from someone who apparently
doesn't understand the meaning of "for all the new standards". We were
talking about PGP's pulling RSA key generation from free PGP 5.0, and
pulling RSA entirely from free PGP 5.5.2, neither of which is a new IETF
standard or even a standard in work.. What is more, they didn't pull it
from pay PGP 5.0 at the same time, so your argument fails doubly.
[snip]
Gentlemen,
Regardless of whether I agree with anything any of you has posted on this
topic, or with the manner, lack of manners, or even the *imagined* lack of
manners (as the case may be) with which it has been said, the fact remains
that this particular thread (playing haruspex over PGP Inc's business plans
and development decisions), does not belong on the IETF's OpenPGP list.
Please pause to re-familiarize yourselves with the Charter (see:
<http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/openpgp-charter.html>). This list is
dedicated to the definition, under IETF guidelines, of an *open* PGP
messaging standard, neither designed nor controlled by PGP Inc -- which
company is absent from mention in the Charter (which also, in a fit of
neutrality, lacks any mention of RSADSI or its products). Thus, whether you
like them or abhor them, use them or prefer to ignore them posting your
opinions about PGP Inc's products and/or practices on this particular
working list is conspicuously inappropriate. It may also be counter-
productive to this standards effort (readers: draw your own conclusions).
I believe I can safely assume that the four of you are intelligent enough to
at least agree on one thing: that the Internet badly needs a real-world,
workable standard for interoperable messaging with strong encryption. I also
assume that, as interested/concerned technical participants, it is not your
intention to impede the work of this (or any other) Working Group. If so,
please do us the courtesy of moving this thread to another forum where you
can pursue it at your convenience.
Since it was Mr. Sternlight who first saw fit to insert his opinions here
(without regard for netiquette, or first familiarizing himself with the WG's
Charter), perhaps it would be appropriate to move this thread to
<news:alt.fan.david-sternlight>. Those who are so inclined may spelunk
deeply into his opinions there without further involving the members of this
Working Group (some of whom I suspect might still wish to move the OpenPGP
standard forward, unencumbered by irrelevancies such as debates over why PGP
Inc's freeware doesn't contain this cipher or that hash).
I thank you sincerely for your consideration in this regard,
dave
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Quotations by Famous People Who Never Used PGP [#112]
"Secrecy is the first essential in the affairs of the State."
--Cardinal Armand Jean du Plessis, Duc de Richelieu (1585-1642).
As Chief Minister to Louis XIII, Cardinal Richelieu was notorious as a
French Monarchist, spymaster, sexual deviant, professional eavesdropper
and torturer. He was also among the first in history to never use PGP.
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