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Re: [openpgp] [PATCH] RFC4880bis: Argon2i

2015-11-03 05:56:53
Congratulations btw on winning the competition!

Kathleen and Stephen can confirm, but I believe you don't have to do
anything in terms of adding any language in this case (no patent
issued/sought, patent pending, etc.). When/if the document is adopted by
the working group, the chair will request any disclosures.



On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Alex Biryukov 
<alex(_dot_)biryukov(_at_)uni(_dot_)lu> wrote:

Hi all,

We were not intending to patent it, so we can add a sentence about it.
Suggestions of lawyer-happy phrases are welcome.

Alex

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe(_at_)cdt(_dot_)org
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','joe(_at_)cdt(_dot_)org');>> wrote:

At IETF94 one question that came up in trying to move quickly to
support Argon2 is the potential IPR that might be in Argon2. The code
available now [1] is CC0 which, AFAICT, doesn't have any patent grant
or implication for patents, etc., meaning the authors could still
claim something, precluding it from use without a waiver (or whatever,
IANAL)

I'll CC the Argon2 authors (on the Argon2 spec [2]) here and see if we
can clarify any potential IPR and whether that might affect using it
in the future in OpenPGP.

best, Joe

[1]: https://github.com/p-h-c/phc-winner-argon2
[2]: https://password-hashing.net/argon2-specs.pdf

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Simon Josefsson 
<simon(_at_)josefsson(_dot_)org
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','simon(_at_)josefsson(_dot_)org');>> wrote:
Den Tue, 3 Nov 2015 07:45:44 +0100
skrev Re: [openpgp] [PATCH] RFC4880bis: Argon2i:

Hi Daniel,

If we introduce this as a normative dependency for OpenPGP, though,
we might also want to have an IETF RFC for Argon2.  Do you know of
anyone working on such a draft?

Simon Josefsson has expressed interest in helping with that.
@Simon: are you working on this?

I started on an Argon2 draft but after talking to the Argon2 team we
decided to wait until Argon2 was finalized.  I suppose now is a good
time to resume that work.  I'll put something up on gitlab.com so
people can review and help.  If anyone wants to help, please let me
know and we'll coordinate something.

/Simon

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