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Re: CMS: Algorithm Dependancy Issues

1998-11-06 18:19:37
I would agree with this change in terminology (as would most
of X9, who like this because it provides X9.17-like (ugh) functionality).

/ Rich

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From: Peter Gutmann <pgut001(_at_)cs(_dot_)aucKland(_dot_)ac(_dot_)nz>
To: ietf-smime(_at_)imc(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: CMS: Algorithm Dependancy Issues
Date: Saturday, November 07, 1998 4:38 AM

While people are commenting on the use of CMS as a general protocol
bucket, 
there's something which has bothered me for awhile: The use of the term 
MailListRecipientInfo to describe the use of shared symmetric keys. 
While I 
appreciate that there are historical reasons for the ML naming, is it too
late 
to change it to something more appropriate like
SymmetricKeyRecipientInfo?  
Its use doesn't have much to do with mailing lists, and since CMS is
supposed 
to be an application-independent format it would be more accurate to
describe 
it by what it actually does rather than one particular possible
application of 
the technique when used with S/MIME.
 
An example of where this causes confusion is with authData (MAC'd data):
If 
you exclude MailListRecipientInfo, the key management is based entirely
on 
public-key technology, because the other two recipientInfos all use
public-key 
mechanisms (KeyTrans has "must contain a key transport public key",
KeyAgree 
has "must contain a key agreement public key").  However the most common
use 
for a MAC - using a shared key/password for integrity protection -
requires 
the use of the rather badly misnamed MailListRecipientInfo, which is the
only 
way to specify a shared key.  It isn't at all obvious from flicking
through 
the RecipientInfo's that you're supposed to manage a shared key by
pretending 
you're on a mailing list.
 
If the name change to the more accurate description isn't possible, would
it 
at least be possible to add comments where necessary in the text to point
out 
that the ML stuff should be used for shared keys?  This would require for

example changing the authData text in section 9 to:
 
  3.  For each recipient, the ... defined in Section 6.2.  The most
common use 
      for a MAC is with a key shared by both the sender and recipient,
which 
      would entail the use of the MailListRecipientInfo type.
 
Peter.

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