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RE: Fwd: I-D Action:draft-hoffman-cms-new-asn1-00.txt

2007-11-09 07:43:52

Simon,

Perhaps I misunderstand the meaning of [1]:

"Dear Author,

The Debian GNU/Linux distribution wishes to incorporate the
IETF RFC xxxx as part of its distribution, and to allow
users to develop, modify and evolve the document."

but it sounds like a request to keep the name "IETF RFC xxxx"
while modifying the content.  This is, of course, completely
contrary to the IETF configuration management process where
RFCs are an archival document series, and no changes are
permitted once an RFC is issued.

Perhaps Debian should align its process with that of the
IETF, requesting permission to create derivative documents
provided that attribution is maintained, and requiring
that any derivative works DO NOT claim to be IETF RFCs.




-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ietf-smime(_at_)mail(_dot_)imc(_dot_)org
[mailto:owner-ietf-smime(_at_)mail(_dot_)imc(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of Simon 
Josefsson
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 6:07 AM
To: Paul Hoffman
Cc: ietf-smime(_at_)imc(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Fwd: I-D Action:draft-hoffman-cms-new-asn1-00.txt


The initiative seems to be a good idea.

To be able to use these ASN.1 modules in free software, a license to
grant the necessary rights is needed.  (As far as I understand, RFC 3978
is not sufficient, see [1].)  After verifying that the ownership of the
contribution allows it, please consider adding a note (possibly the one
discussed in section 3 of [2]) or somehow release the modules under a
liberal license outside of the IETF process.

Thanks,
Simon

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/NonFreeIETFDocuments

[2] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-josefsson-free-standards-howto-01

Paul Hoffman <paul(_dot_)hoffman(_at_)vpnc(_dot_)org> writes:

Greetings again. Jim Schaad and I have created a draft that contains
revised ASN.1 modules for some of the standards-track RFCs for
S/MIME. These modules conform to ASN.1 2002. We want to see if people
are interested in bringing the S/MIME specs up to the new ASN.1 now
that there is an open source, freeware ASN.1 compiler for ASN.1 2002,
a2c (see <http://code.google.com/p/a2c/>).

This is definitely a first draft. There is a list of issues that we
want to address, and we expect more issues to come up in the
WG. Please review the draft and let us know what you think. FWIW,
there is a parallel draft for PKIX.

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.

     Title           : New ASN.1 Modules for CMS and S/MIME
     Author(s)       : P. Hoffman, J. Schaad
     Filename        : draft-hoffman-cms-new-asn1-00.txt
     Pages           : 32
     Date            : 2007-11-08

The Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) format, and many associated
formats, are expressed using ASN.1.  The current ASN.1 modules
conform to the 1988 version of ASN.1.  This document updates those
ASN.1 modules to conform to the 2002 version of ASN.1.  There are no
bits-on-the-wire changes to any of the formats; this is simply a
change to the syntax.

A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hoffman-cms-new-asn1-00.txt

--Paul Hoffman, Director
--VPN Consortium