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Re: Requesting comments on draft-cheney-safe-02.txt

2009-07-30 18:50:18

The idea is that security vulnerabilities on the internet occur most 
significantly as a result of client-side scripting from documents transmitted 
across HTTP.  By most significant I mean as measured by quantity and not 
severity.  In addition to frequent immediate vulernabilities client-side 
scripting can also operate as an execution point for other additional 
vulernabilities not directly associated with client-side scripting.  It is my 
opinion that the only way to solve this security problem is to either break 
HTTP or eliminate client-side scripting.  I find there is no reason to break 
HTTP since it is working perfectly well and is not to blame for this problem.  
Client-side scripting cannot be removed unless an alternative convention is 

It is absolutely imparitive that a solution exist as the quantity of these 
security problems are continually increasing and there is no possible solution 
available from HTTP.  If a solution is not proposed the security flaws of the 
system will become so significant that the commerical value of financial 
transactions and PII leaks will eventually result in abandoning the internet as 
an open platform in favor of more secure proprietary technologies.

As an alerternative method of allowing interactivity from client-side scripting 
I wrote this document to migrate the concept of client-side scripting to the 
email architecture.  The idea is that interactivity from client-side scripting 
can be replaced by transaction interactivity.  Since mail servers are 
intermediate agents in the transmission, opposed to an end point like an HTTP 
server, they can make processing or scripting decisions upon data without that 
scripting having to exist on a client system.  In other words, it is basically 
an inverted form of AJAX that does not execute on the client-side.  The idea is 
easily possible using SMTP, but is not possible over HTTP since HTTP does not 
have intermediate agents between the client and server.


----- Original Message -----
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk-lists(_at_)cybernothing(_dot_)org>
Date: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:44
Subject: Re: Requesting comments on draft-cheney-safe-02.txt
To: "Cheney, Edward A SSG RES USAR USARC" 
Cc: ietf-smtp(_at_)imc(_dot_)org

Cheney, Edward A SSG RES USAR USARC wrote:

I am requesting comments on the following this internet draft.  Any
questions, confusion, feedback, or changes would be helpful.

Interesting idea.  What's the use case you have in mind?  In other 
who will use it, and why?

J.D. Falk
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