In article <8d3d7446-db7d-ac04-2a36-258643254630(_at_)wizmail(_dot_)org> you
Noting that https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sheffer-uta-rfc7525bis-00
section 3.2 says that TLS-on-connect SHOULD be preferred over STARTTLS
(my rephrasing) - and that while T-o-c is reasonably common for MSA-MTA
but not for MTA-MTA -
should we think about technical means to facilitate the latter?
Turns out the STARTTLS language was in RFC 7525 and we missed it.
If this draft goes anywhere, I think we should tell them to fix it and
say that STARTTLS and TLS-on-connect are equivalent if the path with
STARTTLS requires its use, which I think reflects reality.
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