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Re: [ietf-smtp] Email explained from first principles

2021-05-24 09:03:40
It appears that Kaspar Etter  <kaspar(_at_)ef1p(_dot_)com> said:
2. List-Name header field: Mailing lists shouldn’t rewrite the messages of 
others and break DKIM signatures in the process.

Sorry, but this shows some serious misunderstandings about both DKIM and 
mailing lists.

DKIM is a transport signature, which in this case shows that the message was 
sent from the author
to the mailing list system.  List apply their own DKIM signature on the mail 
they send.
Mailing lists have been editing messages for 40 years, long before anyone
ever thought of DKIM or DMARC.   It is a well known DMARC failure that it 
doesn't work with mailing lists.
Some people have tried to rewrite history and claim that it is the lists' fault 
but they are wrong.

The whole point of ARC is to provide recipient systems with info to help 
recognize when they should
ignore DMARC and deliver mail from lists and other legitimate senders that 
don't happen to match the
assumptions that DMARC makes.

R's,
John

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