Pat,
if you want to express such opinions, let's discuss them on the mailing list
to avoid clogging mailboxes and avoid cross posting.
thanks,
Reinaldo
-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Calhoun [mailto:pcalhoun(_at_)diameter(_dot_)org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:40 PM
To: Penno, Reinaldo [SC9:T327:EXCH]
Cc: 'pppoe(_at_)ipsec(_dot_)org'; 'l2tp(_at_)l2tp(_dot_)net';
'ietf-ppp(_at_)merit(_dot_)edu';
'ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org'
Subject: Re: PPPoE Protocol and the IETF
To be fair, there already was a BOF. The consensus, as I
recall, was that
existing protocols should be used for this purpose, and there
was no need
for something new.
I see no reason to re-open old wounds. There is nothing wrong with an
Informational RFC, as far as I can tell. Plenty of
interoperable products,
and that I believe was the goal.
PatC
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 06:13:40PM -0700, Reinaldo Penno wrote:
Hello,
In the years following the publication of the PPPoE protocol much
operational experience and customer feedback was gathered. These
deployments led to the discovery of several shortcomings
or enhancements
needed such as (but not limited to): QoS, Multicast, MIBs,
Route Updates,
Seamless Service Selection, etc.
Even tough several companies stepped forward and wrote
drafts proposing
solutions to these issues, the lack of a appropriate forum
within the IETF
to discuss them had undesired consequences for these
proposals such as
little adoption or interoperability problems when adopted.
Not to mention
that the original PPPoE RFC (2516) has an informational status.
Due to the widespread use of this protocol and the issues
mentioned above,
we are proposing that the interested parties join the
newly created mailing
list for the purpose to discuss how to create within the
IETF an official
forum to standardize the PPPoE protocol and related work.
We are also
working with the Internet Area Directors on possibly
holding a BOF, and one
of the purposes of creating the mailing list is to gauge
interest and
discuss what a WG would do.
Here are some references to work related to the PPPoE protocol:
http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-song-pppoe-ext-multicast-00.txt
http://community.roxen.com/developers/idocs/drafts/draft-wheeler-info-pppoe-
mib-00.html
http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-penno-pppoe-ext-qos-00.txt
http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-penno-pppoe-ext-service-03.txt
http://community.roxen.com/developers/idocs/drafts/draft-carrel-info-pppoe-e
xt-00.html
http://community.roxen.com/developers/idocs/drafts/draft-fiaschi-qoscapabili
ty-ppp-00.txt
http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dasilva-l2tp-relaysvc-00.txt
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2516.txt?number=2516
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thanks,
Reinaldo Penno