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Re: [Enum] (no subject)

2001-10-25 06:24:10
Tony,

Prior to your current employment with Verisign,
how many years were you paid by Network Solutions and/or Verisign
to participate in the domain name debates, without people being told
you were being paid ?

Do you think it is ethical for people to not disclose who is paying them
and what their real agenda is ?


It all boils down to fairness.
Which list do you think is more fair ?
The "toy" IPv4 Internet Early Experimentation Allocations ?
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
The Proof-of-Concept IPv8 Allocations ?
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt

Why would people pay for Address Space, when it is FREE ?

Jim Fleming
http://www.DOT-BIZ.com
http://www.in-addr.info
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tony Rutkowski 
  To: Richard Shockey ; HSilbiger(_at_)aol(_dot_)com ; enum(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
  Cc: hsilbiger(_at_)ieee(_dot_)org 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 6:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [Enum] (no subject)


  At 05:54 PM 24-10-01, Richard Shockey wrote:

    I would politely beg to disagree..  technical issues surrounding the needs 
for "privacy, security, validation, authentication and provisioning" seem 
perfectly in scope. We have already seen some 

  Let's see.  NeuStar's CEO per today's Interactive Week
  Newsletter article ("NeuStar Wants to Administer ENUM")
  appears at VON "laying out a game plan for ENUM regulation,"
  indicating "'we are working very quickly with other
  service providers and government agencies to get selected
  as a Tier 1 ENUM operator.'"

  A NeuStar Strategic Manager introduces and argues for
  an IETF based activity that just happens to support NeuStar's
  announced strategic business plan.

  Competitive ENUM services provider NetNumber's 
  representative in the same IETF group, notes that it 
  is rather unusual for a Working Group to be engaging 
  in such activity, and suggests it is inappropriate
  under the circumstances.

  Who gets to decide what's appropriate, and on what
  basis?



    Considering that the core of these issues touches the DNS it is IMHO it is 
perfectly reasonable for the IETF and this WG to continue to monitor events. 
The hope was that proposals from any source could be considered for open peer 
review by the general IETF community in this WG.

  Since when did it become the IETF's business to "monitor"
  national regulatory events?



    That said the proposed charter did state that such documents were to be 
made informational and not standards track. The IETF quite often publishes 
document developed outside normal working groups.

  Again, when did it become IETF's business to develop
  "informational" schema for national regulatory implementations?
  Is the Working Group going to participate in the potential
  FCC public policy proceedings over the next 2-3 years (FCC
  estimate) that were discussed at the VON ENUM Policy Summit 
  last week?

  --tony

  ps.  While the IETF is dealing with all this regulatory
  baggage, it's worth noting that real technical developments
  are being now being done in the ENUM Alliance.  There were
  four great papers presented last week at VON at the Alliance
  session by Williams Communications, Webly, Voxeo, and Denwa.
  Pending building of the Alliance website, some of them are 
  available at 
  http://www.ngi.org/enum/alliance/index.htm


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