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Re[2]: Last Call: SMTP Service Extension for Content Negotiation toP roposed Standard

2002-07-04 14:24:18
Michael,

I suggest you might wish to recall a few terms.  Probably, you
had occasion to deal with these terms in the past, but you appear
to have forgotten them:

USER
INSTALLED BASE
UBIQUITOUS
OPERATOR
TASK

These terms all have significant meaning outside of computer
engineering.

Go back and reread:

 JSC-EV)> FAX is NOT dead at NASA.

 JSC-EV)> We send a LOT of documents to other centers that cannot be sent via 
e-mail
 JSC-EV)> (photocopies of shipping documents, flight manifests, older 
engineering
 JSC-EV)> drawings, etc [things that are not available electronically]).  That 
is why
 JSC-EV)> I am so interested in seeing this work completed.

A real user speaking.

On an IETF list, it would be good to contribute to finding ways
to use the Internet to solve his problem, rather than sniping.

Gene
gene(_dot_)gaines(_at_)gainesgroup(_dot_)com
Sterling, Virginia


On Thursday, July 4, 2002, 3:41:03 PM, Michael wrote:

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"JSC-EV)" == JSC-EV) (LM <COLES> writes:
    JSC-EV)> FAX is NOT dead at NASA.

    JSC-EV)> We send a LOT of documents to other centers that cannot be sent 
via e-mail
    JSC-EV)> (photocopies of shipping documents, flight manifests, older 
engineering
    JSC-EV)> drawings, etc [things that are not available electronically]).  
That is why
    JSC-EV)> I am so interested in seeing this work completed.

  Do you really send faxes? Is this what you really want to do? I mean to say
you want to negotiate 9600 baud connections over the Internet using some kind
of VoIP?

  Or do you mean that you want a way to send a binary piece of data
(representing an image) from one party to another in an automated, batch
oriented way.

  Perhaps I can introduce you to a protocol called "FTP". 
  It has rather interesting authentication features that are in widespread 
use.
  If you prefer, there is another protocol called "HTTP" that might
help. I've heard it is pretty popular now. If you want batch transfer with
retries, there is also UUCP-over-TCP. Port 540.

====

  Seriously, we need *LESS* junk sent by email, not more.

  The whole FAX over email problem is simply endemic of the fact that we have
no(%) *end-user* to *end-user* file transfer protocols. 
  (To be useful, we would ideally need a global PKI, but we can certainly
start simpler)

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