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RE: way out of the DNS problems? (former Re: delegation mechanism, Re: Trees have one root)

2002-08-01 09:30:07
Hi

This is my first posting to the IETF mailing lists, so please forgive me if I 
do something wrong.

<snipped to get to the crux>

Solution 3. we keep going but we rebuild anew. This seems to be the 
impossible ICANN policy in building their Intercontract system. It 
obviously does not work and leads to strong oppositions.

The reason why I join the IETF debate is that I think 
technology may be the 
response. The same as the namespace agreement has aged, the same the 
technology has aged. We are endlessly arguing on old stuff. Aftyer 20 
years, we need a clean sheet review of the DNS, based on 
today and future 
users' needs. IMHO this goes into two directions: a new DNS 
core system 
analysis (DNS.2) and an extended DNS services (DNS+) logic. 
IMHO in going 
ahead in that two directions (as the iDNs show the path) we will soon 
discover that the ICANN preoccupations and solutions are 
totally outdated 
by what we will uncover and specify.

Obviously we will meet the same kind of oppositions to 
DNS.2/DNS+ than was 
met for IPv6. The question is then to know if this effort 
will be carried 
within the IETF or not. I think DNS.2 cannot be specified 
outside of the 
IETF but a DNS.1.B can. Most of DNS+, which comes before / 
aside / on top 
of the DNS, can be privately developped, but without proper 
integration. 
This would lead to a large number of proprietary solutions 
and to large 
splits in the usage of the network.

So the question is not to know if we have to make that effort 
or not, but 
if it will be a clean move or not. To take a comparison, 
situation in the 
DNS today is like if IPv8 was the only option.
Sorry to have been long. This all I had to say.
jfc

IMHO Networking and Internetworking has changed in many ways since it was first 
introduced.

I am fully aware of the history if the Internet and of how basic networks work. 
*BUT*

The fundamentals of networking have not dramatically changed in all the time 
that we have used networks.

Another, *BUT* and it's a big but, there is no way the original designers of 
networks could have any conception of just how much they have grown and 
expanded into the Corporate networks and the Internet that we have today. 

Since the underlying DNS structure was basic and simple it still works today, 
but (as many more technically qualified people could/will point out), only 
just! and it's limitations are showing.

In practical reality it is simply not possible to "rip it out and start again". 
IPv4 needs to be replaced, however since NAT and a few other "temporary fixes" 
have given it extra life people have not moved onto IPv6 as much they should 
have(?)

So solution 4 needs to be designed, IMHO we need a solution that can take what 
we have today and "evolve" into tomorrow's solution, which will actually be 
solution 5, and what we should have if we "ripped it out and started again" 

BUT (sorry I have to keep using this word atm) where to start.....

Regards

Sean Jones



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