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Re: IPv6 and child pornographers

2002-10-14 08:08:20
Mr. Baptista,

In reading your message re the history of security and the Internet I my attention was drawn to the following paragraph:

   DARPA planners unfortunately were short sighted and did not
   anticipate the technology would become an international standard for
   communications. The community of users and networks connected to DARPA
   were small and trusted so security concerns were a low priority. The
   end result was the deployment of insecure protocols that have kept
   many security experts gainfully employed. Even secure protocols are
   hacked. Today there are millions of compromised computer systems busy
   trying to hack other computers. And many of those busy hacking
   computers may no longer be under the control of the original script
   kiddy hacker who launched them. In fact I suspect many such computers
   are operating independently of a human operator.

As one of the fortunate folks who participated in the ARPANET and the beginning of the Internet, I can attest to the accuracy of the first sentence. Unfotunately, most of the rest of the paragraph, and the rest of your message, is incorrect.

The first crypto-based security protocols for packet nets (and devices that implemented them) were developed in the mid-70s, here at BBN, and deployed in the ARPANET. In the later half of the 70s we also developed the first IP-based end-to-end crypto protocols and devices, using KDC-style technology well before the development of Kerberos at MIT under project Athena. So, it is inaccurate to suggest that the DoD did not pay attention to security concerns in the development of IP.

The primary security mechanisms that are part of IPv6, are the same ones that are available for IPv4 today, namely IPsec. So it would also be inaccurate to suggest that IPv6 offers significant new security options relative to v4. Although one can argue that the address space capabilities of v6 offer the potential for increased privacy relative to v4, even this may not be true in practice, as there are many ways by which privacy is likely to be compromised by higher layer protocols.

Depending on the type of traffic that Carnivore is being used to intercept, I doubt that the transition to v6 form v4 will be a concern, absent use of IPsec or S/MIME or SSL/TLS.

IPsec does not make IP "less prone to man in the middle interception ..." It makes v4 and v6 immune to such interception. IPv6 will NOT do this automatically. It still requires user/admin configuration and key management, which has often proved to be an impediment, largely because of poor management designs/interfaces.

I could go on to identify many more errors in the statements you made re various security matters. As the military would say, you message is a "target rich environment." But, I think this ones noted above suggest that you don't really understand the nature of security in the Internet.

Steve



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