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Re: new.net (was: Root Server DDoS Attack: What The Media Did Not Tell You)

2002-11-29 14:59:40
OK, we now have several words used for suposedly the same thing.

1)  ONE "MONOPOLY ROOT" OWNED and CONTROLLED" BY ICANN; making all decisions 
and leasing out TLD and lower domain name "holder-ships", which supposedly 
yields ONE SINGE ROOT controlled by ICANN.  Also provides a pseudo-legal court 
system (UDRP) for adjudicating "holder" disputes below the ICANNIC root.  Any 
domain names in use outside this construct are declared to be operated by 
PIRATE and Dishonest parties, whether they existed before ICANN came into 
existence or not, and even when created by Jon Postel pre-ICANN.

2)  A "Consistent Set" of TLDs which do not include any collisions, and 
hopefully also do not endure any colliding domain names outside this Consistent 
Set.  How the collisions are avoided apparently assumes some kind of 
communications system that is used for coordinating the introductions of new 
domain names to avoid introducing any and all collisions.

3)  A "Centrally Coordinated Root" that entails some kind of communications 
system that is used for coordinating the introductions of new domain names to 
avoid introducing any and all collisions.

I can see some equivalence between 2 and 3, both of which can be seen to 
achieve the desired result of a collision free root and thus a collision free 
DNS name tree, if this same coordination responsibility is attached to all 
delegations under the root.

but, I see no justification for creation of a monopolistic single point of 
failure with the unilateral unquestioned power to unilaterally set many kinds 
of policies regarding registration business models and use rules for DNS names.

Please explain how you see these relationships.

Cheers...\Stef


At 12:09 PM -0500 11/29/02, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
In message 
<200211290559(_dot_)gAT5xSUf009585(_at_)turing-police(_dot_)cc(_dot_)vt(_dot_)edu>,
Valdis.Kletni
eks(_at_)vt(_dot_)edu writes:



On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 12:45:23 PST, Einar Stefferud 
<Steflist(_at_)thor(_dot_)nma(_dot_)com>  sai
d:

ICANN stands alone in its EXCLUSIVNESS, while arguing 
that there must only be one root.  All others must die!

Think .BIZ.

Now go back and *CAREFULLY* re-read RFC 2826.  Note that nowhere
does it say that ICANN has to be "the root".  What it says is "either you
have one centrally coordinated root, or you have Balkanization".


This is precisely the point.  It doesn't matter who selects the TLDs; 
all that matters is that there be a consistent set.

              --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb (me)
              http://www.wilyhacker.com ("Firewalls" book)