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Re: Proposed statement quotes wrong numbers

2003-10-28 20:15:56
Bruce -
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From: "Bruce Campbell" <bruce(_dot_)campbell(_at_)ripe(_dot_)net>
To: "todd glassey" <todd(_dot_)glassey(_at_)worldnet(_dot_)att(_dot_)net>
Cc: "Harald Tveit Alvestrand" <harald(_at_)alvestrand(_dot_)no>; "Christian 
Huitema"
<huitema(_at_)windows(_dot_)microsoft(_dot_)com>; <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>;
<problem-statement(_at_)alvestrand(_dot_)no>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: Proposed statement quotes wrong numbers


On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, todd glassey wrote:

What was the attendance of the last meeting then? and also what then is
the
sum total of unique EMail Addresses in the Lists then too? I.e. what is
the
total size of the Vetting Community Resource that the IETF brings to the
Party as an enterprise/org???

Are you sure that you can count the (large) number of subscribers that are
on the main IETF lists, and the umpteen WG lists, as participants?

participants as far as meetings are concerned? no - obviously not, but this
pool of good email addresses constitute the core value of the IETF, that
being its Vettig Pool. So yes indeed, and also remember that the IETF is a
voluntary particpation standards process and platform, and that the reliable
email addresses for this "Vetting Pool" is what the core of the IETF's ideas
are vetted against. So put on your "organizational leader's" hat and then
ask me the same question -

There
seem to be a lot of people who are subscribed to various IETF-related
lists who do not seem to participate in the IETF discussions.

But the point is that they have the option. Its their choice as to whether
to participate of not.


( But theres still a lot more than just 700 people who participate in the
  IETF )

I agree - so lets ask the question again, how many unique names are there in
the lists - what's the total 'verified email addresses' that make up the
total of the vetting pool? - 5000 - 10000 - 50000? what is it? Harald? -
this seems like a number that you as the Chair of the IETF would not only be
proud of, but would also have on the top of your head on a monthly basis...
Any ideas as to the number?

Todd



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Bruce.