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Re: national security

2003-12-02 20:34:06
On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 08:27, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:

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What would be the difference if the ccNSO resulted from an MoU? It
would permit to help/join with ccTLDs, and RIRs, over a far more
interesting ITU-I preparation. I suppose RIRs would not be afraid an
ITU-I would not be here 2 years from now.

As someone who is somewhat involved in the policy work of the RIRs, I 
really,
really, really want you to elaborate on this.

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The complexity is that ICANN wants to be two conflicting things
 >(American and International) and to organize something multinational.

Vint, you will never change that IANA is part of the Internet and
Internet is the current solution of the world for its
datacommunications. So IANA must be involved. ITU is the way govs
cooperate in communications (data, telephone, TV, radio) and where
they have so many mixed interests that they must be cautious (this is
what protects us, the consumers). So ITU must be involved.

If you are serious about becoming multinational, you must disengage
from the US Gov. But IANA will never lose its US Flag without ITU. ITU
will never develop an acceptable higher layers capacity (ITU-I) before
long, without ICANN, ccTLD etc.

So, how long will we have to wait for you to ally (and not to try to
swallow) with ccTLDs and to sit down with Mr. Zao, stop WSIS worrying
and permits jointly care about fostering development and innovation.

I just fail to see this. What is it with the ITU that will give us

      a) More openness? How do I as an individual impact the ITU process?
      b) More effectiveness and a faster adoption rate?
      c) A better representation of end-user needs?


ITU is worried like hell, because the Internet is a process that escapes
the Telcos. The telcos in most of our world are in fact governments and
governments/ITU are saying dealing with country names is a thing of
national sovereignty. What they most of the time fail to see, is that
most registry are willing to hand it over to the governments provided
they DO understand the issues, and not use DNS to empower telcos in more
exclusive licencing power.

ITU has been also misleading countries by making them think that DNS
issues will be solved at ITU meetings. I have been telling countries
that they must attend ICANN meetings and no other one. When this
happens, US corporations will have less power over ICANN and things will
be better.

on a side note, Vint/ICANN if you are reading this, the Pacific Islands
Chapter of the Internet Society will have its annual meeting in
September 2004 in Vanuatu. I think it is time you send some outreach
people to explain here, what the hell is ICANN and how you manage a DNS.
(www.picisoc.org). Vint, wanna come? Port Vila, is a very very nice
place...

Cheers


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