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Re: Re[3]: national security

2003-12-05 10:44:24
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Note that I did not mean my comment as sarcasm or irony. If I would 
have, I would have put a ":-)" after it. I didn't. I am a newbie. I am 
still having déja vu.

- - kurtis -

On fredag, dec 5, 2003, at 15:35 Europe/Stockholm, jfcm wrote:

At 21:22 02/12/03, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:
Hasn't this idea been killed enough? I am a newbie on the Internet
(only been here since 1988) and _I_ am fed up with this discussion.

Hi! Kurt,
did not see that one. I will respond it because it may help you 
understanding. I am also a newbie as I only been here since 1977 (on 
the other side of the "plug") and _I_ keep trying IETF people to 
understand the same thing: there is a real world out there.

The first time I had that discussion was with the first internut to 
show up in an international users meeting in Tahoe probably in 1984. I 
wish I remember the name of the guy. Could have been Vint from what I 
remember, but I think the name was longer.

It may interest you that I am a peacefull person and I want to reach 
consensus. But I have Louis Pouzin involved (we both are on Eurolinc 
BoD) who you may know. He specified the first "mail" program at MIT, 
the scripts, the end to end datagram, the IP zones (recently Vint 
recalled the Internet could have been called "catenet" from his 
multiple routes concatenation approach - I think is the necessary 
future). I am glad he is not active on this list :-)

take care.
jfc










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