I think Mark's suggestion is very reasonable in the short term, as it
neatly bypasses the problem of accuracy and accountability in spam
blacklisting services. And of course Dean always has the option of
getting an email account on a non-blacklisted provider. (When I
complained to Road Runner that they were unfairly blacklisting my
provider, they cheerfully offered to steal my account from my provider
rather than fix the problem.) But someone will have to wrestle with
this problem eventually, and if it isn't IETF it will probably be the
US government in the end.
Email has become so important for society and business that very few
people will have even as much tolerance as Dean does for being (in his
own mind, at the very least) unfairly blacklisted. Those of you who
are angry at Dean for "flaming" in this case should consider how much
more constructive it is for him to bring this matter up on the IETF
list than to simply sue everyone who might have played a role in
blocking his email. But frankly, I suspect it is inevitable that the
courts in several countries will be called on to resolve these issues
fairly soon. -- Nathaniel
On May 20, 2004, at 12:44 AM, Mark Smith wrote:
On Wed, 19 May 2004 23:42:01 -0400 (EDT)
Dean Anderson <dean(_at_)av8(_dot_)com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2004, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
<snip - whole lot of legal stuff that I don't have time to
read - I've got a few thousand RFCs to go ...>
Firstly, let me say that it is really sad that legalease, legal
council and legal positions have appeared on an IETF mailing
list to the extent we've seen. I've understood that the IETF was
all about best technical solutions and positions, not best legal
solutions and positions.
Dean, I'm in no position to implement this as a solution (nor
have I spent time thinking about how hard or easy it
would be to implement), however, presuming that @ietf.org doesn't
implement MTA blocking via methods such as SORBS, and I don't
think they do, would you be happy if all people who have official
IETF positions (eg. area advisor, working group chair, etc) had
@ietf.org email addresses, and used those for any IETF related
correspondence ?
Regards,
Mark.
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