John C Klensin wrote:
Carl,
You know that this is going to take more than one employee (or
individual contractor) and that the difference is hair-splitting
for most reasons. I know that. The document if read carefully
is pretty clear about that.
But I keep seeing "one employee only" comments which lead me to
believe that some people are still confused.
Well I didn't think I was confused, but maybe. As far as I can tell the
Clerk function could be one of the contracted out services. To a large
degree the task list for the Clerk will determine just how efficient / cost
effective it would be to do that. If the Clerk's primary tasks are handling
the paperwork for the IAD, then it probably doesn't make sense to outsource
that. If as others have suggested the Clerk functions include processing
I-Ds and other tasks closer to the Secretariat service, then it should be
included as part of that service contract.
To be clear, I am not confused about the ability of a single person handling
all of the tasks that the IESG/IAB might wish for. That just won't happen,
because even if such a person existed we couldn't afford them. That said, it
is not at all clear to me that we need more than a single person managing
well structured contracts with clear deliverables. If that person needs
independent administrative support, that could be just another contract.
In a way we endanger the future viability of the IETF if we allow the IAD
office to grow beyond a single person. Human nature will make everyone
reluctant to cut permanent staff, while cutting back on contracted services
is much easier to swallow.
Tony
john
--On Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:20 AM -0700 Carl Malamud
<carl(_at_)media(_dot_)org> wrote:
This is one of my more general objections to the report -- in
areas like the personnel one and how staffing roles are
presented, it appears (intentionally or not) to be organized
in such a way as to impede community understanding of what
is being proposed.
I'm not sure what you're referring to here, John. You
understood it. I assume the rest of the community is at least
as smart. This is a pretty hard community to impede, so I
didn't try.
Rather than tell you, or other members of the community, what
to think, I tried to give you some additional facts. You, as
well as everybody else, are perfectly able to draw your own
conclusions. (And, should you wish it, I am available to talk
to you or any other member of the community to futher elaborate
any of these issues ... I'm even able to make concrete
recommendations if you'd like to hear them.)
As you rightly pointed out, there are more than one staff roles
that support the IETF. You can do that as contractors or as
employees. It just doesn't matter in the long run, in theory.
In practice, it depends on who you are able to attract who
might want to work for you. And, as you've stressed a few
times, the first step is to get the administrative director
("IAD") hired.
If you have specific suggestions for that job description, that
would be quite useful. You've mentioned several times you
didn't like the one in the report, so this would be a good
time to fix that flaw.
Thanks!
Carl
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