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Re: IPv6 in the network, please

2004-11-10 13:10:18
I am in International E, without v6 on WLAN, but can v4 ssh home and
trace from there to the v6 router here.  Then I see VERY good response
over the JANET-GEANT-Abilene-IETF route.   

Maybe it's a Euro6IX issue for you, for specific routing to that prefix
as opposed to the production prefix, if GEANT does offer transit for you?

(You might try asking to routing(_at_)6net(_dot_)org)

login ~]$ /usr/sbin/traceroute6 2001:468:c12:1::1
traceroute to 2001:468:c12:1::1 (2001:468:c12:1::1) from 
2001:630:d0:115:230:48ff:fe23:58df, 30 hops max, 16 byte packets
 1  servers-router.6core.ecs.soton.ac.uk (2001:630:d0:115::1)  0.431 ms  0.276 
ms  0.275 ms
 2  zaphod.6core.ecs.soton.ac.uk (2001:630:d0:101::1)  0.841 ms  0.527 ms  
0.706 ms
 3  ford.6core.ecs.soton.ac.uk (2001:630:d0:100::1)  0.99 ms  0.975 ms  1.668 ms
 4  2001:630:c1:100::1 (2001:630:c1:100::1)  1.309 ms  1.411 ms  0.952 ms
 5  2001:630:c1:10::1 (2001:630:c1:10::1)  2.855 ms  1.851 ms  2.023 ms
 6  * * *
 7  2001:630:c1::1 (2001:630:c1::1)  3.35 ms  2.651 ms  2.379 ms
 8  2001:630:c1::1 (2001:630:c1::1)  2.338 ms  3.192 ms  2.778 ms
 9  po9-0.cosh-scr.ja.net (2001:630:0:10::85)  79.361 ms  3.606 ms  3.264 ms
10  po2-0.lond-scr.ja.net (2001:630:0:10::29)  5.147 ms  5.02 ms  7.123 ms
11  po6-0.lond-scr3.ja.net (2001:630:0:10::36)  5.306 ms  4.906 ms  5.095 ms
12  2001:630:0:10::166 (2001:630:0:10::166)  5.447 ms  4.241 ms  4.248 ms
13  janet.uk1.uk.geant.net (2001:798:2028:10aa::1)  5.798 ms  5.709 ms  5.006 ms
14  uk.ny1.ny.geant.net (2001:798:20cc:1c01:2801::1)  74.333 ms  74.8 ms  
73.537 ms
15  nycmng-esnet.abilene.ucaid.edu (2001:468:ff:15c3::1)  78.41 ms  128.5 ms  
74.054 ms
16  washng-nycmng.abilene.ucaid.edu (2001:468:ff:1518::2)  101.141 ms  95.373 
ms  96.015 ms
17  max-washng.abilene.ucaid.edu (2001:468:ff:184c::2)  95.498 ms  94.944 ms  
94.517 ms
18  2001:468:c12:1::1 (2001:468:c12:1::1)  95.006 ms  108.128 ms  96.164 ms


On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 02:18:31PM -0500, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
Agree, good job. Is working for me since over 10 minutes ago.

BUT the routing to Europe is really stupid and absolutely unacceptable:
Ordenador-de-Jordi-Palet:/Users/Jordi/Desktop jordi$ traceroute6
www.euro6ix.org   
traceroute6 to www.euro6ix.org (2001:800:40:2a03::3) from
2001:468:c12:136:20d:93ff:feeb:73, 30 hops max, 12 byte packets
 1  2001:468:c12:136::4  2.491 ms  1.672 ms  1.641 ms
 2  2001:468:c12:1::1  2.353 ms  2.463 ms  2.387 ms
 3  2001:468:ff:185c::1  17.22 ms *  3.112 ms
 4  atlang-washng.abilene.abilene.ucaid.edu  21.407 ms  18.55 ms  18.519 ms
 5  hstnng-atlang.abilene.ucaid.edu  44.552 ms  43.544 ms  38.279 ms
 6  losang-hstnng.abilene.ucaid.edu  69.868 ms  69.807 ms *
 7  3ffe:8140:101:1::2  178.257 ms  173.559 ms  174.291 ms
 8  hitachi1.otemachi.wide.ad.jp  175.771 ms  174.657 ms  173.76 ms
 9  pc6.otemachi.wide.ad.jp  195.116 ms  183.588 ms  190.05 ms
10  * 3ffe:1800::3:2d0:b7ff:fe9a:6233  185.624 ms  183.481 ms
11  3ffe:1800::3:230:48ff:fe41:4e95  184.689 ms  183.501 ms  184.908 ms
12  2001:468:ff:16c1::5  183.309 ms  184.138 ms  194.804 ms
13  v6-tunnel62-uk6x.ipv6.btexact.com  457.111 ms  456.848 ms  455.127 ms
14  2001:800:40:2e02::1  513.549 ms  511.013 ms  515.763 ms
15  2001:800:40:2f02::2  514.232 ms  512.886 ms  520.444 ms
16  ns1.euro6ix.com  520.54 ms  516.964 ms  510.757 ms

Can we please fix this, PLEASE ? No idea why hasn't been fixed already since
when reported on Monday, in parallel with the rest.

By the way, the press should take note about Airespace marketing versus
reality. I hope this company can be honest an make a public correction on
that, otherwise customers should not trust them anymore.

Regards,
Jordi


De: matthew(_dot_)ford(_at_)bt(_dot_)com
Responder a: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Fecha: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:43:07 -0000
Para: <young(_at_)jsyoung(_dot_)net>, <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Asunto: RE: IPv6 in the network, please

So somebody needs to get Airespace's marketroids to slow down a little
bit:

http://www.airespace.com/news/press_releases/04_1026b.php

--Mat

P.S. Sincere thanks to the IETF61 NOC for making these efforts to get
IPv6 functional on the entire network - I'll try that new config now
from Lincoln.

On , ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
(mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org) wrote:

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From: Ben Crosby <ben(_dot_)m(_dot_)crosby(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
Date: November 10, 2004 12:07:08 PM EST
To: jeffrey(_dot_)s(_dot_)young(_at_)alcatel(_dot_)com
Subject: IPv6
Reply-To: Ben Crosby <ben(_dot_)m(_dot_)crosby(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>

Folks,

To expand on Jeff's explanation of the IPv6 status here at
IETF61;
The entire network, both wired and wireless, was designed from the
get-go as being IPv6 capable. It also had a very real and major
requirement to be stable in the face of hundreds of clients all at
100% transmit power, rogue APs,  and all the other problems that have
plagued previous IETF wireless networks. The good folks at Airespace
seemed to have a system that met this goal, and as we all can see,
it indeed works well.

However, when we asked Airespace to join us in this adventure,
it
became clear that the "intelligence" of their system worked through
tracking IPv4 DHCP requests, and thus wouldn't work with IPv6. This
lack of IPv6 support was nearly a show stopper, however Airespace
jumped through some major hoops to design, implement, and deploy code
that monitors RAs and RSs specifically to handle IPv6 for this
network. 

Like most brand new code, when we deployed it, we encountered
problems. Problems that lead to instability in ALL wireless network
access. After several long days and nights of working on this long
before the first attendees arrived (we've been on site since Tuesday
2nd - Election Day ;) we decided to disable the IPv6 support on the
wireless network, rather than risk the overall network stability.
Airespace continues to work on the problems, and we believe that we
have a reasonable interim solution.

We have phased in a new image with limited deployment, which we
will
monitor. If we experience no problems, IPv6 will be back on the
wireless lan, however we need to maintain the overall stability of
the wireless network as our highest priority.

For those who need IPv6 on wireless:

SSID: ietf61v6
WEP Key: thisisav6wlan
Hex: 746869736973617636776c616e

Coverage will be available in Georgetown, Lincoln, Jefferson,
Monroe, Military and Hemisphere. You should not associate with this
wireless network if you need stable IPv4. This is a dedicated
network with new AP's and a new controller.

My thanks to our volunteer staff who worked to deploy this
network
in the late hours last night (and very early hours this morning)
after the social event.

For those that are inconvenienced by the loss of IPv6, I
sincerely
apologize, and remind you that native IPv6 is available at every
wired port in the terminal room.

Thanks for bearing with us, and have a good meeting!

- Ben Crosby
Alcatel / IETF61 NOC

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