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RE: Monday consensus text: #725 Appealing decisions

2005-01-31 17:31:21
From Haralds latest text (below), the 2nd para reads:

    In the case where someone questions whether a decision or action of the
    IAD or the IAOC has been undertaken in accordance with IETF BCPs or
    IASA operational guidelines (including the question of whether
    appropriate guidelines have been created or maintained), he or she may
    ask the IAOC for a formal review of the decision or action.

Rob and certainly I (when editing this) had to read this 2 or 3 times.
We think that the following (in our view) purely editorial change would make
it more readable:

      If a member of the IETF community questions whether a
      decision or action of the IAD or the IAOC has been
      undertaken in accordance with IETF BCPs or IASA
      operational guidelines, or questions whether the IASA
      has created and maintained appropriate guidelines,
      he or she may ask the IAOC for a formal review of
      the decision or action.

OK?

Bert

p.s. John,
In my editing buffer I have also fixed the last para to make it 
"IAB and ISOC BoT" instead of "IESG and ISOC"

---------- latest tex from Harald from Monday):

Still - I think this is a text that is possible to live with.

3.5  Review and Appeal of IAD and IAOC Decision

    The IAOC is directly accountable to the IETF community for the
    performance of the IASA.  In order to achieve this, the IAOC and IAD
    will ensure that guidelines are developed for regular operational
    decision making.  Where appropriate, these guidelines should be
    developed with public input.  In all cases, they must be made public.

    In the case where someone questions whether a decision or action of the
    IAD or the IAOC has been undertaken in accordance with IETF BCPs or
    IASA operational guidelines (including the question of whether
    appropriate guidelines have been created or maintained), he or she may
    ask the IAOC for a formal review of the decision or action.

    The request for review is addressed to the IAOC chair and should include
    a description of the decision or action to be reviewed, an explanation
    of how, in the requestor's opinion, the decision or action violates the
    BCPs or operational guidelines, and a suggestion for how the situation
    could be rectified.  All requests for review
    will be publicly posted, and the IAOC is expected to respond to these
    requests within a reasonable period, typically within 90 days.  It is up
    to the IAOC to determine what type of review and response is required,
    based on the nature of the review request.
    Based on the results of the review, the IAOC may choose to overturn
    their own decision, change their operational guidelines to prevent
    further misunderstandings, take other action as appropriate, or just
    publish the review result and take no other action.

    If a member of the community is not satisfied with the IAOC's response
    to his or her review request, he or she may escalate the issue by
    appealing the decision or action to the IAB, using the appeals
    procedures outlined
    in RFC 2026 [RFC2026].  If he or she is not satisfied with the IAB
    response, he or she can escalate the issue to the ISOC
    Board of Trustees, as described in RFC 2026.

    The reviewing body (IAB or ISOC BoT) will review the decision of the
    IAD or IAOC to determine whether it was made in accordance with existing
    BCPs and operational guidelines. As a result of this review, the
    reviewing body may recommend to the community that the BCPs
    governing IAOC actions should be changed.
    It may also advise the IAOC to modify existing operational guidelines
    to avoid similar issues in the future and/or may advise the IAOC to
    re-consider their decision or action.
    It may also recommend that no action be taken based on the review.

     In exceptional cases, when no other recourse seems reasonable, the
     reviewing body may overturn or  reverse a non-binding decision or
     action of the IAOC.  This should be done after careful consideration
     and consultation with the IAOC regarding the ramifications of this
     action. In no circumstances may the IESG or IAB overturn a decision of
     the IAOC that involves a binding contract or overturn a personnel-
     related action (such as hiring, firing, promotion, demotion,
     performance reviews, salary adjustments, etc.).

Comments?

                         Harald
 

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