Francois Menard wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
In 1999 you asked my predecessor's predecessor:
I wonder if we should not have a new working group within the IETF that
would issue informational RFC's on the topics of equal access
using Internet Protocol technologies.
Well, I'm quite sure the answer is no. That is a business model,
policy and
governance question, and these are not areas within the IETF's mission.
I am in agreement that open access issues as they relate to business
models, policy or governance, are not areas within the IETF mission.
However, you have avoided giving consideration to the technical guts of
my proposal: re: IPv6 flow field range partitioning, IPv6 prefix
propagation and MPLS LSP to v6 flow mapping (as they emerge from DOCSIS
SIDs). I am not proposing an open access working group per se, but I
would like to know what the IETF-ers think about how best to support
multiple simultaneous ISPs in an IETF-standardized sort of way. Do not
ask me to have these discussions at Cablelabs... they do not want it. So
where else?
That should be discussed either in the relevant WGs or initially off line
with anyone who shows interest.
I've been out of touch for a while, so if anybody can bring me up to
speed in a manner that is a bit more enthusiastic, I would appreciate
deeply.
Discussion of specific vendor's products is also outside our scope,
except
when they directly illustrate technical discussions.
Can one at least tell me whether Multi-VRF is known to be an IETF
standard? What is the RFC?
Somebody from the Routing area probably needs to answer that.
It's clear that producing technical standards that are fair and open is
in the IETF's mission, and that is where we should focus. If you have
technical proposals that tackle this, they are most welcome, in Paris,
Vancouver, or on-line.
I should propose an ID in the IPv6 working group?
I'm not sure that is the right WG; not everything IPv6-ish takes
place in the IPv6 WG. In fact, almost every IETF WG should take
account of IPv6 issues. The VPN work in the IETF is split between
the Internet and Routing areas - see the list of active WGs
at http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/wg-dir.html
You might, however, be interested by RFC 4084.
I do not see the relevance of this RFC.
It's the nearest we have to documentation of what "Internet access"
means objectively.
Brian
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