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Re: Name ownership and LLMNR (Re: Last Call: 'Linklocal Multicast Name Resolution...)

2005-09-01 11:13:16


--On 1. september 2005 14:14 +0100 Tony Finch <dot(_at_)dotat(_dot_)at> wrote:

LLMNR allows me to treat names in a different way than mDNS does.
If I have a name that I'm certain I own (this box is, with high
certainty, the only one in the world named
HALVESTR-W2K02.emea.cisco.com), LLMNR allows me to assert that name on a
LAN even when the DNS is not available, or when that name is not
currently asserted in the DNS.

This kind of naming is not possible for ad-hoc networks without Internet
connectivity and without any domain name registration.

it's certainly *possible* (if each participant has some relationship to a domain name owner). The question is whether it's *desirable*.

I see naming as 3 parts:

- I pick a name
- I assert that the name belongs to me
- You choose to believe it (or not).

With DNS names, "I pick a name" involves seeing which names are free in a DNS zone I have a relationship to (which may be dyndns.org, for instance), and doing the admin steps to reserve it. "I assert" involves me putting it into a DNS zone, and loading that zone onto a DNS server, where you'll presumably pick it up. "You choose" in the DNS case is because you believe (presumably) in the chain of servers between you, the root node and the authoritative server for my domain; in the LLMNR *or* mDNS case, it would be "because he's here and he says so".
This could be backed up with certificates if you wanted to, of course.

The difference between LLMNR and mDNS here seems to be that mDNS *requires* me to use two different names in the two different cases; LLMNR, while it certainly *permits* me to do so, does not *require* it.

This is descending into a philosophical debate... "what's in a name".......




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