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2005-09-20 20:55:27
The origins are military, the Romans were the first engineers. The root
is ingeniosus, meaning "skilled". 

The military engineers were always responsible for more than building of
siege engines, they would also build the earth works for attack and
defense.

The term 'civil engineer' was coined to differentiate building of public
works from the military form. I have a feeling it might have been
Brunnel who coined the term but it might be earlier.

During the 19th century engineers were the rock stars of the day. 

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Unfortunately, the English term can carry either of these meanings, 
depending largely on context.  It is applied to people who drive 
trains (because they operate an "engine", to people who provide 
technical support, and also to people who design complex 
electrical or 
mechanical systems or structures.  You have to know from 
context which 
is which.

It's my (non-authoritative) understanding that the term 
engineer originally meant someone who built engines (think 
seize engines, etc).  

When locomotive were first invented they were not very 
reliable so the guy who drove them was a kind of 'field 
support engineer' and the name engineer stuck.

...George

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