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Questions about draft-lear-iana-no-more-well-known-ports-00.txt

2006-05-23 13:52:43
Eliot,

I haven't made up my mind whether I think this is a good idea or
not, but I two have two questions about issues that interact
with this draft that are not covered in it.

(1) At present, the IESG reviews and approves applications for
well-known ports.  If the IESG does not believe a particular
protocol proposal is "worthy" (my terminology, not theirs), then
a low-numbered port is not assigned although the author is free
to go to IANA for a higher-numbered one.   Would the effect, and
intention, of deprecating the distinction between "well known"
and other ports be to take the IESG entirely out of the approval
loop for port assignments except as described in the first two
paragraphs of section 2?

(2) Your charging plan ties a potential charge to port requests
originating outside the IETF process for which there is no
corresponding RFC.  However, there have been cases in which IANA
has assigned a port number, the requester has submitted a
document for RFC publication, but the RFC Editor has not found
the description of the associated protocol to be of sufficient
interest to the community to be worth publishing.  It seems to
me that this creates an uncomfortable situation which could be
resolved by:

        (i) Requiring that the RFC Editor publish, on request,
        any protocol description for which IANA assigns a port
        number of for which it has assigned a port number in the
        past.  or
        
        (ii) Permits that charge only for ports and protocols
        for which no documentation has been submitted to the RFC
        Editor for publication.  or
        
        (iii) Creates a two-track process for assignment of port
        numbers that are not based on IETF-approved protocols.
        In one, the RFC Editor approves a specification document
        and then requests that the port assignment be made,
        while, in the other, requesters go to IANA directly but
        agree to pay any fees necessary.    Of course, our
        normal procedures and conventions would presumably
        require an appeals procedure if the RFC Editor turned
        something down. That would raise all sorts of other
        issues that might not make either the community or the
        RFC Editor very happy (see
        draft-klensin-rfc-independent-01.txt)

So, what did you have in mind?

     john


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