Brian,
I had responded to Eric Rosen's note earlier (see my mail
of Thu 6/1/2006 12:07 PM EDT) - in particular concluding:
"I - for one - see nothing either false or misleading in the
proposed note. I also find that addition of such a note is
substantially less onerous than alternatives we have now..."
In the event that this was not clear, I support this
experiment.
I think it is worth adding that we might not know the
outcome of such an experiment for many years - because it may
take that long to determine whether or not this approach is
more or less painful than the current process.
--
Eric
--> -----Original Message-----
--> From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brc(_at_)zurich(_dot_)ibm(_dot_)com]
--> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 6:20 AM
--> To: C. M. Heard
--> Cc: iesg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
--> Subject: Re: Last Call: 'A Process Experiment in Normative
--> Reference Handling' to Experimental RFC (draft-klensin-norm-ref)
-->
--> C. M. Heard wrote:
--> > On Thu, 1 Jun 2006, Eric Rosen wrote:
--> >
--> >>There are also other reasons why I find this
--> proposed experiment
--> >>disheartening.
--> >>
--> >>For one thing, it really misses the point. We
--> need to simplify our
--> >>processes, not make them more complicated. Either we
--> need the downref rule
--> >>or we don't. If we want to experiment, let's
--> experiment with eliminating
--> >>the rule entirely, not with fine tuning it.
--> >>
--> >>The real underlying problem of course is the the
--> multi-stage standards
--> >>process is just a relic from another time, and makes no
--> sense at all in the
--> >>current environment. Experiments in fine tuning the
--> process are nothing but
--> >>a distraction.
--> >
--> >
--> > For the record, I completely agree with the above
--> sentiments (and have so
--> > stated on the newtrk mailing list).
-->
--> I'd like to ask people who *don't* agree with the above sentiments
--> (i.e. who support this experimental process change) to say
--> so, before
--> the Last Call ends in two days. (Obviously, people who *do*
--> agree are welcome
--> to say so too, but a problem with Last Calls is that it's
--> very hard to
--> judge whether silence means consent.)
-->
--> Brian
-->
-->
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