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RE: are we willing to do change how we do discussions in IETF? (was: moving from hosts to sponsors)

2006-06-28 11:23:29
From: Jeffrey Hutzelman [mailto:jhutz(_at_)cmu(_dot_)edu] 

I do think that there should be a fixed rule prohibiting members of 
the IESG being WG chairs. I would also include the IETF 
chair in this.

I don't.  While I agree this should be a rare occurrance, I 
have seen no evidence of a problem that such a rule would be 
intended to address.  If it's not broken, why spend time 
trying to "fix" it?

I was unable to appeal to the IESG against what I considered to be a very grave 
abuse of position by a chair precisely because I was warned that there was no 
prospect of getting a fair hearing as he was a member of the IESG.

I don't think we wish to go into old history again here. The point is that 
there have been ADs who were also working group chairs in the past and that 
this situation is not compatible with an open or fair process.

The reason I believe that there should be a fixed rule is that it is impossible 
to fix this situation after the problem has arisen without recognizing that 
there is a problem and thus endorse the implication that the AD in question has 
in fact abused their position as chair rather than merely recognizing the 
potential for abuse.

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