Dean -
So then its the ISOC's formal process to officially refuse to comply with
Safe Harbor, the US DMCA and the EU's Security Requirements for electronic
processes? Cool - I am betting that means the US Government cannot
participate with them too, right?
By the way - what State's or Country's laws are the IETF's documents
governed under and why is this not in any of the IETF's documents including
the Solicitation RFP itself??? My favorite is the Affidavit which comes
with a perjury clause in it with no statement of who's perjury laws were
being used? US? Virginia? California? who's ???
Todd Glassey
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Anderson" <dean(_at_)av8(_dot_)com>
To: "Eliot Lear" <lear(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com>
Cc: "todd glassey" <tglassey(_at_)earthlink(_dot_)net>; "Thomas Narten"
<narten(_at_)us(_dot_)ibm(_dot_)com>; "Pete Resnick"
<presnick(_at_)qualcomm(_dot_)com>; "Frank
Ellermann" <nobody(_at_)xyzzy(_dot_)claranet(_dot_)de>; "Sam Hartman"
<hartmans(_at_)mit(_dot_)edu>;
<ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Response to the Appeal by [...]
This isn't true. The IETF, IESG, and IAB are activities of the ISOC. The
ISOC is incorporated. A suit against the IETF, IESG, IAB activities
names the ISOC. Losing such a suit, the ISOC complies with the court
orders, pays the damages, and ultimately controls the money spent on
IETF/IESG/IAB activities.
--Dean
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, Eliot Lear wrote:
todd glassey wrote:
That requires a policy and approval by the ISOC - this is one of the
onerous
failings of the ISOC as well.... that it let the IETF define its own
contractual processes and their recourse models.
The IETF is a community trust, and the ISOC was formed to maintain that
trust. The IETF let itself be governed by the ISOC on that basis, not
the other way around.
Eliot
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