To help Pekka here, from an operator's perspective the difference
between 'control' and 'management' is quite blurred, as long as the same
type of functionality happens in an operational deployment. Speaking as
an individual I believe that your approach may be correct, but it's
better that the relationship with what you call management protocols and
their role in providing complementary functionality is explicitly
spelled out in the charter and framework documents.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Burger [mailto:eburger(_at_)bea(_dot_)com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:53 PM
To: Pekka Savola
Cc: iesg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org;
mediactrl(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: WG Review: Media Server Control (mediactrl)
We had not considered the control framework to be a
management framework.
Rather, we see it as a repeatable design pattern for how to
find and establish protocol connections to a media server.
What indicates that it is a management protocol? We do
expect to use existing SNMP methods for the input to the
broker protocol. However, that is passive monitoring and not
provisioning.
Have we missed something?
Good point on the milestones; check out the message to Magnus
to see if we've addressed the issues.
Thanks.
On 2/19/07 8:14 AM, "Pekka Savola" <pekkas(_at_)netcore(_dot_)fi> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, IESG Secretary wrote:
Given the wide acceptance of the media server, we need a
standard way
to control them.
This, and taking a look at
draft-boulton-sip-control-framework-05.txt
which seems to be relevant here, seems to imply this group
is about to
build a management framework for SIP services. I'm not
sure if such a
framework has been chartered yet in other WGs, and if not,
this would
be the first time, bearing closer scrutiny how to do it correctly.
How much the manamgement part of O&M has been consulted?
What is the
model of co-operation with the IETF management expertise?
MILESTONES
APR 2007 Requirements Document
JUN 2007 Framework Document
NOV 2007 Conference Control Protocol
MAR 2008 IVR Control Protocol
JUN 2008 Broker Protocol or BCP
These are horribly vague. Are the dates for WG adoption? WGLC?
Shipping off to the IESG?
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