RE: IPv4 to IPv6 transition

If IANA had any resolve there are at least 25 -30 Class A blocks that 
should be reclaimed and are not or should not be part of the public 
Internet address space.


At 6:56 -0400 2007/10/03, Ray Plzak wrote:
> Brian,
>
> My comment was regarding a head in the sand approach when it comes 
> to the recurring themes that the developing world can't IP address 
> space, whether it is v4 or v6. The fact is that they can get it from 
> the RIR like those in the developed regions can get it from their 
> RIRs. The real problem, in other words, putting head in sand, is to 
> substitute this address space access issue for the real one of what 
> can the recipients of the address space do with it when they get, 
> particularly if they have no hardware to run it on, no electricity 
> to power it, and no upstream willing to route it. It is those issues 
> that need to be hit head on if the Internet is to really grow in the 
> developing regions of the globe.
> Ray
>
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: Brian E Carpenter 
> > [mailto:brian(_dot_)e(_dot_)carpenter(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com]
> >  Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 4:39 PM
> >  To: Ray Plzak
> >  Cc: Tim Chown; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
> >  Subject: Re: IPv4 to IPv6 transition
> >
> >  Ray,
> >
> >  I don't think it's quite fair to refer to ostriches
> >  when ARIN is already on record:
> >  http://www.arin.net/v6/v6-resolution.html
> >
> >  Also, for those who like to see things in real time,
> >  there's always http://penrose.uk6x.com/
> >
> >  Regards
> >      Brian Carpenter
> >      University of Auckland
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  On 2007-10-03 02:47, Ray Plzak wrote:
> >  > Head in the sand is substituting the statement "shortage of IP
> >  addresses" for the condition of the inability to use the addresses
> >  (take your pick when it comes to infrastructure deficiencies).
> >  >
> >  > Ray
> >  >
> >  >> -----Original Message-----
> >  >> From: Tim Chown [mailto:tjc(_at_)ecs(_dot_)soton(_dot_)ac(_dot_)uk]
> >  >> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:32 AM
> >  >> To: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
> >  >> Subject: Re: IPv4 to IPv6 transition
> >  >>
> >  >> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 09:05:39AM -0400, Keith Moore wrote:
> >  >>> Ray Plzak wrote:
> >  >>>> The shortage of IPv4 addresses in developing countries in a red
> >  >> herring.
> >  >>> that has to rank as one of the most bizarre statements that's ever
> >  >> been
> >  >>> made on the ietf list.
> >  >> More of an ostrich than a herring?
> >  >>
> >  >>
> >  >>    .="""=._
> >  >>      /  .,   .`.
> >  >>     /__(,_.-' ||
> >  >>    `    /|    ||
> >  >>        / |    ||
> >  >>         \|    ||
> >  >>  ~~~~~ ~ |\ ~~!)~~~~~~~
> >  >>
> >  >>
> >  >> Tim
> >  >>
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