Hi,
My reading of this thread of comments is that there is no reason to
change anything regarding the document. I will therefore progress this
document towards approval.
Regards
Magnus Westerlund
Brian E Carpenter skrev:
On 2007-10-05 05:38, ken carlberg wrote:
I don't recall when was the last (Diffserv-based) QoS talk at NANOG
or similar operator-rich meeting. (Sure, there is the tutorial, but
it doesn't count.)
I would be concerned if outside groups spent time arguing "foo" is
bad, or if they advocated other positions to the same issue. But I
tend to feel quite uncomfortable with litmus tests based on inactivity
of other groups/people. My personal view is that advocates of that
line of reasoning place a bigger burden on themselves in providing
specific in-depth arguments.
Seems like a potential indication that most typical ISPs aren't
working on or interested in this, this stuff is so trivial, or that
coordination is not necessary.
i appreciate work that is trivial because its generally simple, easy
to accomplish, and leads to fewer interoperability issues. as for
ISPs, its fascinating the disparity of how quiet and talkative they
are depending on what side of the NDA you are on :-)
In any case, if Pekka is correct, that's *exactly* why this
draft and RFC 4594 are needed - to lay a minimum foundation on which
ISPs can build operational practices and SLAs.
It's always been clear to me that voice and video would be the main
drivers for uptake of diffserv, and Marshall's comments confirm
that. As that type of traffic grows, ISPs won't have any choice.
Guidnace from the IETF seems entirely appropriate.
Brian
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