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Re: A priori IPR choices [Re: Third Last Call:draft-housley-tls-authz-extns]

2007-10-21 17:48:38
Different era.

Today we have had several companies burnes for up to half a billion dollars 
with piffle patents.

When tcpip was being written the patent office had not become a profit center, 
the seven nos were still an issue.


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 -----Original Message-----
From:   Brian E Carpenter 
[mailto:brian(_dot_)e(_dot_)carpenter(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com]
Sent:   Saturday, October 20, 2007 12:26 PM Pacific Standard Time
To:     Hallam-Baker, Phillip
Cc:     Ted Hardie; lrosen(_at_)rosenlaw(_dot_)com; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; 
Contreras, Jorge
Subject:        Re: A priori IPR choices [Re: Third Last 
Call:draft-housley-tls-authz-extns]

Phill,

If there were in addition some standard non disclosure contracts, standard 
contracts for holding pre-standards meeting and the like the result could be 
turned into a book which most managers in the valley would probably end up 
buying. 

Most of them, and those in Armonk that I used to work for, bought Section 10 of 
RFC 2026 and its successors. Certainly, open 
source was less of a factor when that regime was designed, but Linux still 
supports TCP/IP as far as I know. So I think the 
experimental evidence supports the arguments you're hearing from me, Ted and 
others.

Don't confuse that with a liking for standards encumbered by patents with 
expensive licensing conditions. It's simply a matter 
of finding a pragmatic compromise in a world where software patents are 
granted, and often upheld by the courts, so that the 
goal of 100% unencumbered standards is unrealistic.

    Brian
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