Am 24.12.2008 um 19:50 schrieb Bryan Ford:
So in effect we've gotten ourselves in a situation where IP  
addresses are too topology-independent to provide good scalability,  
but too topology-dependent to provide real location-independence at  
least for individual devices, because of equally strong forces  
pulling the IP assignment process in both directions at once.  Hence  
the reason we desperately need locator/identity separation: so that  
"locators" can be assigned topologically so as to make routing  
scalable without having to cater to conflicting concerns about  
stability or location-independence, and so that "identifiers" can be  
stable and location-independent without having to cater to  
conflicting concerns about routing efficiency.
As far as specific forms these "locators" or "identifiers" should  
take, or specific routing protocols for the "locator" layer, or  
specific resolution or overlay routing protocols for the "identity"  
layer, I think there are a lot of pretty reasonable options; my  
paper suggested one, but there are others.
Cheers,
Bryan
thanks brian for your great explanation  , something came to my mind  
imediatly,
.........i remember these days when i connect to the internet using my  
1 und 1 - 14,4kb modem in the 90th
there was no NAT,
 i connected with a little programm to a specific ip adress,
there was not even DNS involed at that time. for the programm i was  
talking about ;)
So there were no caches und buffers with information about my usage  
exept  on the server where i was connected to.
Just one question because i am reading a lot about all these routing  
ptotocols in the past , is uia / uip  more usefull in sparse or dense  
networks or both ?
bright new 2009
cheers from cologne
Marc
i believe that  "Kademlia "  [ 1 ] for example and the  
technologies
mentioned in the  linked paper [ 2 ]
would fit the needs and requirements for a future proof internet.
[ 1 ] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kademlia
[ 2 ] http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/papers/uip:hotnets03.pdf
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