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From: Nick McKeown <nickm(_at_)stanford(_dot_)edu>
Date: February 8, 2010 16:09:12 GMT+02:00
To: "Eggert Lars (Nokia-NRC/Espoo)" <lars(_dot_)eggert(_at_)nokia(_dot_)com>
Cc: Aaron Falk <falk(_at_)bbn(_dot_)com>
Subject: Re: NetFPGA tutorial with IETF in Anaheim
Lars,
Thanks for checking. The NetFPGA tutorial is not a for-profit event. It
will, in fact, run at a loss.
As you might imagine, running a tutporial is quite expensive. We will be
flying in two instructors, shipping 10 PCs, setting them up, renting a
room, paying for hotel rooms and providing food. Our estimate is that
this will cost around $250 per attendee. We are subsidizing the cost of
the tutorial using money we spend time raising during the year. We offer
about 5-10 tutorials per year, all at a loss.
Running a tutorial like the NetFPGA tutorial for free is not really what
you want. A tutorial like this - with specialized equipment - costs
about $5,000 to run. Someone needs to pay. We are a non-profit, and
raise funds for the salaries of all the people working on the project.
If you think it is useful for the discussion, feel free to forward to
the IETF list.
- Nick
On 2/8/10 1:38 AM, Lars Eggert wrote:
Hi,
On 2010-2-5, at 16:52, Aaron Falk wrote:
Details about this event and registration information are posted on-line as:
http://netfpga.org/tutorials/IETF2010/index.php
the page says: "Cost of the tutorial is $200."
I'm trying to understand if this is a for-profit event. The reason is that
I'm growing somewhat concerned with the recent trend to have more and more
non-IETF meetings during or adjacent to the IETF weeks, which distract or at
least take energy away from the IETF-related meetings (Sunday has always
been *the* day to prepare for the week). But at least so far, those events
have been free to attend.
If we're now seeing events co-located with the IETF that charge attendance
fees, we're running the real risk of having folks get day-passes for the
IETF in order to attend non-IETF meetings. (The cost of this tutorial is
~1/3 of an IETF registration.) Conversely, I don't see the chance of getting
additional attendees into the IETF based on these side meetings.
Thanks,
Lars
PS: I do believe that the topic of this particular tutorial is interesting
for a good chunk of the IETF attendees, myself included. My main concern is
the monetary aspect, a minor concern the potential with taking energy away
from the IETF week.
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