Weeeeell,
I was living in France in spring 2005 when the chip and pin systems went
live there.
There was a very short period where cards without chip and pin did not work.
Two days later, facing the inability to take money from foreigners,
signature-based transactions were back.
Sometimes (including in the UK) the shop-owner may sigh in a dramatic way as
they reach for the pen, but money is money!
Adrian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
To: "Joe Abley" <jabley(_at_)hopcount(_dot_)ca>
Cc: "Phillip Hallam-Baker" <hallam(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>;
<ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht
I'm with Joe on this. I also travel extensively, including in
non-tourist areas, and have never had my US Visa or Mastercard
declined because it didn't have a chip.
Cheers,
Andy
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Joe Abley <jabley(_at_)hopcount(_dot_)ca> wrote:
On 2010-03-31, at 20:56, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
In theory it is possible to use a US issued credit card in Europe.
In practice, forget it unless you are willing to face the
embarrassment of 50% of places declining your card.
My experience in the UK is that outside London you are very likely to
find that the only cards they accept are chip and pin cards.
I travel somewhat frequently through Asia, Europe, Africa and Australasia
with credit cards issued by US institutions (Bank of America Visa,
American Express) and Canadian banks (TD Canada Trust, CIBC, Desjardins,
all Visa cards). The Desjardins card is the only one with a chip.
I occasionally find that people don't take American Express. This happens
more often outside North America, but not only outside North America. I
have found that in some countries (UK included) people are unfamiliar
with cards that don't have a chip, but it has never stopped me from using
one. (In New Zealand it seems more common that people are confused about
chip cards, since the EFTPOS terminals support them but very few people
have them).
I have never had a problem with any of my North American cards being
declined, chip or not. I have spent a reasonable amount of time in the UK
in particular, since most of my family lives there. I was most recently
there in December 2009.
Your comments above do not match my experience in the slightest.
Joe
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