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RE: Last Call: draft-ietf-simple-msrp-sessmatch (Session Matching Update for the Message Session Relay Protocol (MSRP)) to Proposed Standard

2010-06-07 23:42:51

Hi,

The intention is not to "mandate" that MSRP allows man in the middle attacks. 
The text simply states that it doesn't change what can already be done.

If you think that the text gives a wrong picture regarding that, and what is 
possible what to protect with SIP, I am happy to modify the text.

Regards,

Christer



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From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org [ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On 
Behalf Of Cullen Jennings [fluffy(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com]
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 7:31 PM
To: IETF Mailing List; IESG IESG
Subject: Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-simple-msrp-sessmatch (Session Matching      
Update for the Message Session Relay Protocol (MSRP)) to        Proposed 
Standard

This draft is a standards track update to MSRP that mandates that MSRP allow 
man in the middle attacks. I am strongly opposed to this change and feel that 
it would be a violation of the spirit of BCP 61 as well as just a bad idea.

The "security is OK" is based on the idea that MITM attacks are already 
possible so this makes it now worse - see section 5 where it says

   However, since a
   man-in-the-middle would in any case be able to modify the domain
   information in both the SDP and the MSRP messages"

I don't agree with the assumption that SIP can not protect against MITM attacks 
and therefore it is OK to mandate support for MITM attacks in MSRP. Who did the 
security review for this draft?

Cullen <MSRP co author>

On Jun 7, 2010, at 8:40 AM, The IESG wrote:

The IESG has received a request from the SIP for Instant Messaging and
Presence Leveraging Extensions WG (simple) to consider the following document:

- 'Session Matching Update for the Message Session Relay Protocol (MSRP) '
  <draft-ietf-simple-msrp-sessmatch-06.txt> as a Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action.  Please send substantive comments to the
ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org mailing lists by 2010-06-21. Exceptionally,
comments may be sent to iesg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org instead. In either case, 
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The file can be obtained via
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-simple-msrp-sessmatch-06.txt


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