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Re: Nomcom 2010-2011: Results of Random Selection

2010-07-16 14:56:53
Can't you repeat it yourself ? It is supposed to be a deterministic process (once the inputs are obtained).

RFC 2777

A method such that public information will enable any person to verify the randomness of the selection meets this criterion. This document gives an example of such a method.

Regards
Marshall



On Jul 15, 2010, at 10:48 PM, Jiankang YAO wrote:

is it possible to record this process?

we will only know the result after selection, but not know the acutal process.

Jiankang Yao
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Walsh" <twalsh(_at_)juniper(_dot_)net>
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Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 5:59 AM
Subject: FW: Nomcom 2010-2011: Results of Random Selection




-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-announce-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org [mailto:ietf-announce-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org ] On Behalf Of NomCom Chair
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:56 PM
To: IETF Announcement list
Subject: Nomcom 2010-2011: Results of Random Selection


Hi all,

The following is the list of 10 nomcom volunteers selected randomly from
this list: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ann/nomcom/2395/

87.  Huub van Helvoort, Huawei Technologies;
25.  Dorothy Gellert, InterDigital Communications;
14.  Gregory Cauchie, France Telecom  Orange;
46.  Suresh Krishnan, Ericsson;
79.  Pete St. Pierre, Oracle;
31.  Tony Hansen, AT&T Labs;
75.  Jan Seedorf, NEC Laboratories Europe;
91.  Rolf Winter, NEC Labs Europe;
47.  Dirk Kroeselberg, Nokia Siemens Networks;
23.  Mehmet Ersue, Nokia Siemens Networks;

This begins the one week community review of the selection - please let me know ASAP if you see any problems with the selections. The challenge period will close at 17:00 PDT (24:00 UTC) on Thursday, July 22, 2010.

I am in the process of contacting the individuals to confirm they are
still able to serve on the Nomcom.

The details for the selection are listed below.

Seed Values:
The seed values used in selecting the committee members are follows:

The National Lottery: Daily Play: Thursday, July 15, 2010 Results:
https://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/results/dailyplay.ftl
(7 numbers from 1-27)
Value: 01 08 09 14 17 20 23

US National debt ("Debt Held by the Public"), published by the
Treasury department as of Wednesday, July 14, 2010
(Published on July 15, 2010)
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np
Last 8 digits, ignore the commas and periods
Value: 76998828

US National debt ("Intragovernmental Holdings"), published by the
Treasury department as of Wednesday, July 14, 2010
(Published on July 15, 2010)
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np
Last 8 digits, ignore the commas and periods
Value: 79622755

Massachusetts Lottery Powerball Drawing: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 Results
(11:20 PM EDT draw on July 14, 2010):
http://www.masslottery.com/games/lottery/powerball.html
(5 numbers from 1-59 and 1 Power Ball number from 1-39)
Value: 20 21 23 38 42 6


With the selection algorithm results are based on RFC 3797 as follows:
$ ./selection.exe
Type size of pool:
(or 'exit' to exit) 101
Type number of items to be selected:
(or 'exit' to exit) 15
Approximately 58.1 bits of entropy needed.

Type #1 randomness or 'end' followed by new line.
Up to 16 integers or the word 'float' followed by up
to 16 x.y format reals.
01 08 09 14 17 20 23
1 8 9 14 17 20 23
Type #2 randomness or 'end' followed by new line.
Up to 16 integers or the word 'float' followed by up
to 16 x.y format reals.
76998828
76998828
Type #3 randomness or 'end' followed by new line.
Up to 16 integers or the word 'float' followed by up
to 16 x.y format reals.
79622755
79622755
Type #4 randomness or 'end' followed by new line.
Up to 16 integers or the word 'float' followed by up
to 16 x.y format reals.
20 21 23 38 42 6
6 20 21 23 38 42
Type #5 randomness or 'end' followed by new line.
Up to 16 integers or the word 'float' followed by up
to 16 x.y format reals.
end
Key is:
1.8.9.14.17.20.23./76998828./79622755./6.20.21.23.38.42./
index        hex value of MD5        div  selected
1  D092CC19DF2C1FEEB24AAC2AB125F55A  101  -> 87 <-
2  7FB953E77CA8324A610E79E913AD0190  100  -> 25 <-
3  2371D3F40C93DB58353C0293210E7761  99  -> 14 <-
4  388238514EE702E862D627B202DF05CD  98  -> 46 <-
5  007A2D4BB6183716D28D5B800676F115  97  -> 79 <-
6  B12DF65CFF27EB958643B7622E1CA75C  96  -> 31 <-
7  C307E04AB485B8ACDF1D6188F97780F5  95  -> 75 <-
8  C8B42FE23BD3FFE011DB7CC5275B71C1  94  -> 91 <-
9  545AEF5C89368BF992E93447B4381787  93  -> 47 <-
10  BB39831C989C6249ECF3E3D4890B3DA9  92  -> 23 <-
11  8F82F9BDFC95D405BD756BBB2B5F2BE2  91  -> 16 <-
12  1F3FCE8A3D82CF8FBB72AE1945249478  90  -> 60 <-
13  2A18B179BFC4D53F5ED295BC61D8F1B9  89  -> 92 <-
14  F4C656521040602854F0808A605D3145  88  -> 89 <-
15  AA8545B3E2728947D721670FD6440951  87  -> 19 <-

Done, type any character to exit.

Regards,
Thomas Walsh
nomcom-chair(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
twalsh(_at_)juniper(_dot_)net

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