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RE: Nomcom 2010-2011: Results of Random Selection

2010-07-16 15:54:44
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From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org [ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On 
Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks [tme(_at_)americafree(_dot_)tv]

Can't you repeat it yourself ? It is supposed to be a deterministic
process (once the inputs are obtained).

RFC 2777

A method such that public information will enable any person to verify
the randomness of the selection meets this criterion. This document
gives an example of such a method.
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Ah, yes, but if you re-read the announcement of the selection, it starts:

From: ietf-announce-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
[mailto:ietf-announce-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org On Behalf Of NomCom Chair
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:56 PM

Hi all,

The following is the list of 10 nomcom volunteers selected randomly 
from
this list: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ann/nomcom/2395/

You have to read well down into the message to be told that the process is 
based (somehow) on RFC 3797.  It's a typical problem around here -- messages 
that should be stand-alone announcements aren't written carefully, and the 
authors forget how much background knowledge they are assuming.  (Would this 
announcement be comprehensible to someone who was unaware of RFC 3797/2777?)  A 
better start would be:

The following is the list of 10 nomcom volunteers selected randomly by the 
process of RFC 3797 from this list [URL].  The input data to the RFC 3797 
algorithm is detailed below.

Dale
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