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Re: Nomcom Enhancements: Improving the IETF leadership selection process

2010-07-18 15:14:55

On Jul 17, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Dave CROCKER wrote:

Folks,

Nomcom has been an integral part of the IETF for nearly 20 years.

A number of us have been developing a set of recommendations designed to 
adapt the Nomcom process to better match current realities of the IETF 
community.  The draft has progressed far enough to call for public 
consideration.

Some of the proposal's recommendations require no changes in formal rules.  
They
can be adopted immediately, possibly by the current Nomcom, should it so 
choose.
Others require a formal development and approval cycle.

At:

    <http://www.bbiw.net/recent.html#nomcom2010>

there is a copy of the Full Proposal, and a Summary which primarily contains 
just the recommendations.

......
Please feel free to discuss the proposal with any of the authors or folks 
listed
in the Acknowledgments section, or on this list.

I read the summary version of it: seems to me a timely effort in improving our 
process.  it'd be great if we could do this for next nomcom:)

One comment, then one new suggestion for you to consider.

The comment: I support the idea of having a second 'expertise' pool of 
volunteers, but I wonder where comes this suggestion of selecting *3* members 
from this pool.  A few random questions:

- Do we know what is this number for the last several NOMCOMs?

- Assuming ISOC keeps the records of NOMCOM volunteers over time: what 
percentage of volunteers that would fall into this second pool?

- Did this number "3" come from a rough expectation on how many NOMCOM members 
should have this "direct involvement in the process of IETF leadership 
(IAB/IESG/WG chair)?
e.g. say you expect total 5 people with experience, you pick 3 from 2nd pool 
first, then expect 2 more from the bigger pool ...

Personally I feel (1) there should be a expected low threshold of NOMCOM member 
with this direct IETF leadership experience, and (2)this threshold should be 
higher than 3.

Now the suggestion: Since some of the suggested enhancements would require 
modifications to 3777, I'd like to bring up another thought I've had for a long 
time: the current NOMCOM eligibility requirement (3 of the last 5 IETF 
meetings) seems a bit low, I feel that a longer experience with IETF process 
than 2 years (as minimum) requirement could help NOMCOM's decision process, as 
IETF is already over 24 years old now with a pretty long and rich history.

Take into account the fact that many people probably do not attend all IETF 
meetings, as a strawman for a longer IETF experience, what about attending 5 of 
the last 8 or 10 meetings?

that's all for now, and thanks to all for doing this important work!

Lixia

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