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Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-intarea-shared-addressing-issues-02.txt> (Issues with IP Address Sharing) to Informational RFC

2011-02-15 11:07:09
One late comment on this: Section 7 discusses the impact of address sharing on 
geolocation and geo-proximity use cases.  (Nit: common usage is "geolocation", 
not "geo-location")  This section does a good job of describing the impact of 
address sharing on the common case where an IP address is used as a key into a 
generic "IP geo" database.

However, there are several emerging systems that provide much more than these 
generic databases.  Typically, these systems tap into network management 
infrastructure to map an IP address to the physical resource to which it is 
assigned, using things like RADIUS databases and DHCP lease tables. This is an 
important use case, for example, for ECRIT emergency services 
[draft-ietf-ecrit-framework] using the HELD location protocol [RFC5985].  (Also 
an issue that Law Enforcement agencies have been known to care deeply about.)

It would be good for this draft to comment on the impact of address sharing for 
these high-precision IP-geo systems. Suggested text for after the first 
paragraph of Section 7:
"
IP addresses are also used as input to higher-fidelity geolocation services 
that resolve an IP address to a physical location using information from the 
network infrastructure.  Current systems rely on resources such as RADIUS 
databases and DHCP lease tables.  The use of address sharing will prevent these 
systems from resolving the location of a host based on IP address alone.  It 
will be necessary for users of such systems to provide more information (e.g., 
TCP or UDP port numbers [I-D.ietf-geopriv-held-identity-extensions]), and for 
the systems to use this information to query additional network resources 
(e.g., NAT-PT binding tables).  Since these new data elements tend to be more 
ephemeral than those currently used for geolocation, their use by geolocation 
systems may require them to be cached  for some period of time.
" 


On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:04 AM, The IESG wrote:


The IESG has received a request from the Internet Area Working Group WG
(intarea) to consider the following document:
- 'Issues with IP Address Sharing'
 <draft-ietf-intarea-shared-addressing-issues-02.txt> as an
Informational RFC

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
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