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Re: [mpls] Last Call: <draft-ietf-mpls-tp-on-demand-cv-06.txt> (MPLS On-demand Connectivity Verification and Route Tracing) to Proposed Standard

2011-08-22 09:22:12
Eric,

Don't you feel that uniformity should be maintained on AGI field
representation for on-demand and proactive OAM operations?

   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |   AGI Type    |  AGI Length   |      AGI Value                |
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   ~                    AGI  Value (contd.)                        ~
   |                                                               |
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-06, section 3.5.3. PW Endpoint MEP-ID and
draft-ietf-mpls-tp-on-demand-cv-06, section 2.3.2.  Static Pseudowire
Sub-TLV conflict in representing the AGI field.

Why are we not following this generic format for representing the AGI field?

Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Venkat.

Re: [mpls] Need clarification on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-on-demand-cv-05

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Binny,

    We discussed this in detail.  Superficially, this seemed like a great idea,
with precedents in the CC/CV/RDI draft.

    The issues we ran into include:
1) the Static PW ID TLV is already a sub-TLV; there are issues and a very
    undesirable precedent associated with creating a sub-TLV for a sub-TLV.
2) the flexibility associated with inheriting the type code also poses a risk;
    we cannot know in advance what other AGI types might be invented in
    the future, and whether or not it would make sense in then existing TP
    implementations to support generally the new type(s) as part of the
    Static PW Identifier Sub-TLV.

    What we decided to do was to change the name of the field to "Service
Identifier" - which will be an unsigned integer and which may contain a type
0x01 AGI, for example.  Because it is an unsigned integer, it may also be
used to contain anything smaller than 64 bits.

    The flexibility to support other AGI types still exists, should it become
necessary to do so.  In that event, we could define additional Static PW
Sub-TLV type(s) to support any AGI type(s) that make sense at that time.

    Thanks for your thoughtful and thought-provoking input! We appreciate
your putting time into reviewing our draft...

--
Eric

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 1:48 PM, venkatesan mahalingam
<venkatflex(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:
Hi,

I don't see any TLVs defined for performing the on-demand CV operation
on MPLS -TP Sections. Is this intentional?

and

Co-routed bidirectional tunnel identifier:
A1-{Global_ID::Node_ID::Tunnel_Num}::Z9-{Global_ID::
     Node_ID::Tunnel_Num}::LSP_Num
Associated bidirectional tunnel identifier:
A1-{Global_ID::Node_ID::Tunnel_Num::LSP_Num}::
     Z9-{Global_ID::Node_ID::Tunnel_Num::LSP_Num}

How does Static LSP Sub-TLV address the need of two LSP_Nums of
associated bidirectional tunnel?

Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Venkat.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Mach Chen 
<mach(_dot_)chen(_at_)huawei(_dot_)com> wrote:
Hi,

One question about the difference of the encapsulation modes between CV and 
Route Tracing.

In Section 3, there are three encapsulation modes for on-demand CV: 
"LSP-Ping with IP encapsulation", "On-demand CV with IP encapsulation, over 
ACH" and "Non-IP based On-demand CV, using ACH", but for On-demand Route 
Tracing (in section 4), there are only two modes: "On-demand LSP Route 
Tracing with IP encapsulation" and "Non-IP based On-demand LSP Route 
Tracing, using ACH". Seems that there should be "On-demand LSP Route Tracing 
with IP encapsulation, over ACH" accordingly. What's reason behind this? Or 
maybe I missed something.

Best regards,
Mach

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(mpls) to consider the following document:
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  <draft-ietf-mpls-tp-on-demand-cv-06.txt> as a Proposed Standard

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Abstract

   Label Switched Path Ping (LSP-Ping) is an existing and widely
   deployed Operations, Administration and Maintenance (OAM) mechanism
   for Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Paths
   (LSPs).  This document describes extensions to LSP-Ping so that LSP-
   Ping can be used for On-demand Connectivity Verification of MPLS
   Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) LSPs and Pseudowires.  This document also
   clarifies procedures to be used for processing the related OAM
   packets.  Further, it describes procedures for using LSP-Ping to
   perform Connectivity Verification and Route Tracing functions in
   MPLS-TP networks.  Finally this document updates RFC 4379 by adding a
   new address type and requesting an IANA registry.


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