Dear Jari,
During the discussion of the two maturity levels change, a question was
brought up about DISCUSSes appropriate for documents that advance on the
standards track. We discussed this in the IESG and I drafted some
suggested guidelines. Feedback on these suggestions would be welcome. The
intent is to publish an IESG statement to complement the already existing
general-purpose DISCUSS criteria IESG statement
(http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html).
Here are the suggested guidelines for documents that advance to IS:
http://www.arkko.com/ietf/iesg/discuss-criteria-advancing.txt
Comments appreciated. Please send comments either on this list or to the
IESG (iesg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org) in time before our next telechat (Thursday, September
8, 2011).
Jari
As with 2119bis, thank you guys for putting this together.
The text in http://www.arkko.com/ietf/iesg/discuss-criteria-advancing.txt
says
IESG reviews should be considered as a review of "last resort". Most
documents reviewed by the IESG are produced and reviewed in the
context of IETF working groups. In those cases, the IESG cannot
overrule working group consensus without good reason; informed
community consensus should prevail.
I might have thought that the point for documents advancing on the standards
track is that they already have *IETF* consensus (especially if they are
being advanced without text changes), so the IESG cannot overrule *IETF*
consensus without good reason ... which seems like a higher bar (one can
more easily assume the existence of a rogue working group producing a rogue
Internet-Draft, than a rogue IETF that is still sane enough to NomCom-select
non-rogue ADs who will push back on rogue standards-track documents
advancing :-)
So perhaps s/informed working group consensus/informed IETF consensus/?
I note that this isn't quite tying the IESG's hands (I'm reading this
descriptive text as the moral equivalent of "MUST NOT overrule IETF
consensus without good reason", which leaves one hand free).
Spencer
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