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Re: Last Call <draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt>(The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) toInformational RFC

2011-10-18 03:46:00
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yaakov Stein" <yaakov_s(_at_)rad(_dot_)com>
To: "Ross Callon" <rcallon(_at_)juniper(_dot_)net>; "Rolf Winter" 
<Rolf(_dot_)Winter(_at_)neclab(_dot_)eu>;
"Stephen Kent" <kent(_at_)bbn(_dot_)com>; <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 5:09 PM


The IETF has a very long history of pushing back on multiple redundant
solutions to the same problem.
There are a great many cases of ADs, working group chairs, and others
pushing quite hard
to prevent multiple solutions when one would work fine.

I haven't seen this in the OAM work so far.

PWE's VCCV has 3 or 4 different channels (code named CC types)
and 3 or 4 different OAM mechanisms (code named CV types).
And each of these has several variants and most have several possible
encapsulations.

Similarly in the MPLS-TP work we have a large number of options.
For example, draft-ietf-mpls-tp-on-demand-cv has 3 different encapsulations
(LSP-ping UDP/IP packet in MPLS, LSP-ping packet in UDP/IP in GACh,
and "raw" LSP-ping packet in GACh with a new channel type).

Why is it that no-one seems to object to a plethora of possible options for
anything
except the inner-most payload format?

Yaakov

Because MPLS-TP is not really IETF work:-)

The processes of MPLS-TP have been IETF-like but diverging from IETF in a number
of small ways and it is this that has, for me, allowed the many different
solutions that you refer to to emerge.  Outside MPLS-TP, I rarely see this
occurring except in a very generic case of a protocol running over both UDP and
TCP, or TCP and SCTP.

Tom Petch

In other fields,







Y(J)S



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