On Dec 8, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
On Dec 7, 2011, at 6:49 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote:
Actually, I meant wiki according to its classic, collaborative meaning:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki>
What you folks are describing is a web page, not really a wiki.
Exactly, and that is appropriate for something whose primary target is
organizations that are giving large amounts of money and time to the IETF. A
"collaborative page" can easily go sideways with contributors who don't
understand the parameters of what is meant to be there.
Yes, and who have very little incentive to add stuff -- for example, look at
the WG Chairs wiki ( http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/wgchairs/ )-- the
subtitle is: "Everything a WG Chair Needs to Know but Was Afraid to Ask" . This
site is far from useful[0], and hasn't been kept up to date (mnot made some
changes ~ 6months ago, 22months ago Marc changed some email addresses, 2 years
ago Tony changed a URL or two, most of the content is 5 years old). It is *far*
from "everything a WG Chair needs to Know" -- something like this aimed at the
event folk / organizers at a sponsor is not going to reflect well on the IETF
and is not going to help lead to a successful meeting.
If we ended up with the opposite problem (everyone editing), things would be
much much worse -- anyone reading this would assume that we are a bunch of
childish, blithering idiots -- go read some previous Attendees lists and sample
random threads (the "Hilton clock" thread:
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/80attendees/current/msg00271.html , the
"CD is a chocolate?" thread, the infamous Maastricht train threads) -- these
are the sorts of things that folk might add the the Wiki -- it this really the
image we want to be projecting?
Wiki's are a great idea, *for some things*, but (IMO) this is not one of them.
W
[0]: Yes, I *know* it's a wiki and I can / should go edit it myself, but,
well....
In many cases such as WGs, such sideways motion is fine; for a page whose
audience are often people who don't know about the IETF but are tasked with
deciding whether or not to give us significant financial support.
--Paul Hoffman
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