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Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> (The Tao of IETF: A Novice's Guide to the Internet Engineering Task Force) to Informational RFC

2012-05-31 11:42:54
John,

On 2012-05-31 16:19, John C Klensin wrote:
...
Assuming Paul isn't planning to get this published as an RFC and
then immediately retire from the IETF and that we don't have a
delusion that this document will not need to be maintained and
updated as things change, I propose the following:

(1) Establish the Tao as a modified Wiki, complete with live
HTML links to relevant documents and other relevant
discussions.. Provide some mechanism for comments to the editor
or even discussion that works better than the RFC Errata
process.  Turn maintenance of that page over to a volunteer or
two (ideally someone young enough to learn a lot from the
process) or the Secretariat.   Before someone says "cost",
please calculate the costs to the community of an extended Last
Call in which people debate details of wording.

+- some trivia such as avoiding the fuzziness of a wiki, isn't that
what http://www.ietf.org/tao.html already achieves?

I tend to agree with your suggestions below.

    Brian


(2) Appoint Paul as chair of an editorial committee with zero or
more additional members to be appointed at his discretion
subject to advice and consent of the IESG.  That committee gets
to consider whether to make changes.  If they get it wrong, they
are subject to the community's normal forms of abuse and, in
principle, appeals.  That could add a bit of work for the IESG
but I suggest only a bit and less than running a Last Call.

(3) Replace/ obsolete RFC 4677 by a document modeled on RFC
5000.  I.e., it should explain why we are maintaining the Tao as
one or more web pages and should provide a durable pointer to
how the web page can be found.

just my opinion,
   john



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